Originally posted by JBL
Gladiator overcame frozen time on sheer speed alone. Hit 100 times the speed of light. Crossed galaxies in the time it took a special God to blink. Gladiator covered 200 light-years in minutes. That's well beyond Superman.
Even if those feats were accurate, they aren't beyond Superman. And you know they aren't.
Stop dicking around, and try to have an actual conversation, please.
Originally posted by -Pr-Ok, show a scan of Superman moving at or above 100 times light speed with numbers attached. Show him covering 200 light years in minutes with numbers attached. Show him crossing galaxies in the blink of an eye from someone on par with the guardian of the rainbow bridge.
Even if those feats were accurate, they aren't beyond Superman. And you know they aren't.Stop dicking around, and try to have an actual conversation, please.
Originally posted by JBL
Ok, show a scan of Superman moving at or above 100 times light speed with numbers attached. Show him covering 200 light years in minutes with numbers attached. Show him crossing galaxies in the blink of an eye from someone on par with the guardian of the rainbow bridge.
...Wait. Why are you asking for travel feats?
But I disgress. Sure, I'll do that, when you can post feats by Gladiator that stack up with these:
Originally posted by Philosophía
Thanks!Superman is the 4th fastest being in DC, after Flashes [Barry/Wally] and Reverse Flash [Eobard]
Accelerates to Flash's level and runs through time back to Krypton.
Superman repairs the moon from small fragments, after it was pulverized, in a single page/conversation with Batman.
Superman shows the best mental processing feat in history, as he processes the entire Universe, when devices that build Suns, and ones that are so far beyond that they exceed comprehension, cannot [repost from above]
https://ibb.co/ThyLm6F
https://ibb.co/KxX6RkN
https://ibb.co/ncS0MV3
https://ibb.co/tx64KNX
https://ibb.co/ts3dhPc
https://ibb.co/pfSs8DF
https://ibb.co/9ZW6C8rHe is fast enough to see three moves ahead of everyone but Barry
Races alongside Barry running as fast as he can:
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https://ibb.co/VLV165n
https://ibb.co/H2G15mz
https://ibb.co/fx5TMdLAlmost catches up to the Flashes [Wally/Barry] at breakneck speeds wreaking havok with the fabric of the Multiverse [magic, green, even 4th world Source energy].
https://ibb.co/Rht7jLH
https://ibb.co/2tJpRgw
https://ibb.co/BCH62PNSuperman outraces the Flash, when motivated by Luthor donating money if he wins. When asked how he did it, he said he just simply ran faster. [repost from above]
https://ibb.co/qdWkVJV
https://ibb.co/BqqJ3x1
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https://ibb.co/TcgDtww
https://ibb.co/HHrzPkB
https://ibb.co/Mfq1JFR
https://ibb.co/58rv4jj
https://ibb.co/vP0KrzQ
https://ibb.co/Rpx9sjK
https://ibb.co/t84k8Rf
https://ibb.co/0yGsKBX
https://ibb.co/GsQvSjTHe can see individual femtosecond and attoseconds.
https://ibb.co/NtVTGtR
https://ibb.co/9Gs7fgv
https://ibb.co/fY1RnnrFlies 3 sectors of the Universe in a page, from Earth to New Krypton i.e. sector 2814 to 2811
https://ibb.co/2YJM9zW
https://ibb.co/VDfkqhk
https://ibb.co/G9rRCpJ
https://ibb.co/4R9gr89
https://ibb.co/mF9dMLbFlies from Earth to Mogo in the GLs transluminal space in moments.
https://ibb.co/fxjPyP9
https://ibb.co/0y83Npy
https://ibb.co/B473hT8Casually flies multiple light-years between solar systems in a few panels:
https://ibb.co/27CVTMV
https://ibb.co/X8BSvLP
https://ibb.co/f8JCSpkHas a casual road trip from one side of the Universe to the other in a few days with Alice with various pit stops:
https://ibb.co/xh37Xch
https://ibb.co/mF0Gcd7
https://ibb.co/b2s49YJ
https://ibb.co/jrQXLgS
https://ibb.co/mGbWKvf
https://ibb.co/84tVt40
https://ibb.co/cQ1kJVj[weakened] Superspeed owns a phantom zone kryptonian army
https://ibb.co/WvDMfjt
https://ibb.co/N6HSG64
https://ibb.co/1Kr52gRSpins fast to create a vortex and drag gas into outer space
One shots an entire Dominators armada at super speed flight.
https://ibb.co/9Vx8YCR
https://ibb.co/SvKwF8LScans a massive spaceship battle with multiple species at super-speed in less than a second before anyobdy notices he's appeared there, then speedblitzes them all.
https://ibb.co/3f9L0G6
https://ibb.co/q9KCWMP
https://ibb.co/hXmMmZ4
https://ibb.co/7vPK68gSpeedblitzes Circe using Diana's lasso, at her request:
https://ibb.co/6wWqGX8
https://ibb.co/hVg6Q71Speedblitzes robots:
https://ibb.co/gS1gsKF
https://ibb.co/5L6822WBlitzes somebody from Daily Planet to Iron Heights and she didn't even percieve she was moved.
https://ibb.co/D7whvBX
https://ibb.co/F5CLryGChanges in his Superman clothes and outraces a bullet from miles away.
https://ibb.co/VHz670b
https://ibb.co/58R5YL3
https://ibb.co/Lt1FHX1
https://ibb.co/6t7GzTjEasily catches close range shitton of machine gun fire
Mid talk with Lois leaves, takes care of different problems, and comes back before she changes positions.
https://ibb.co/w7yD1pM
https://ibb.co/dBy1qNW
https://ibb.co/7k96mG0Casually flies in and out mid-convo with J'onn to take care of things in different locations, including the Moon.
https://ibb.co/3ptYLCd
https://ibb.co/j4MsqN3
https://ibb.co/rF9ZbQc
https://ibb.co/sRL21Jb
https://ibb.co/CK102zrExperiences Leviathan's bomb at superspeed
https://ibb.co/3039cWT
https://ibb.co/pztRTbCSpeed-speaks with Jor-El as the battle is seemingly frozen still:
https://ibb.co/K5D4VH6
https://ibb.co/khyvxpTSupes and Zod have an entire conversation while laser blasts are standing still in time:
https://ibb.co/1TrsyFT
https://ibb.co/DtQDhy4
https://ibb.co/B6LQdRb
https://ibb.co/qy4xgmw
https://ibb.co/0yxjssmAccelerates so much he resists a 4th dimensional teleportation attempt by Leviathan, and only stops because he'd do irreparable damage to space/time:
...And we both know it's Gladiator you're sore about, hence my singling him out.
Originally posted by -Pr-Give me a little while and I will handle all those Superman feats and put them in their place and show you that NONE of them shows light-year speed nor comparable combat speed.
...Wait. Why are you asking for travel feats?But I disgress. Sure, I'll do that, when you can post feats by Gladiator that stack up with these:
...And we both know it's Gladiator you're sore about, hence my singling him out.
Originally posted by carver9The whole plot was that Superman was specifically weakener by being split. It would make zero sense to split Supermans power in two, and then well it doesnt matter because one wasnt any weaker anyways. Step your reading comprehension skills up.
Nothing was said of New 52 Superman being weakened. He continuously grew in power. He started off as someone that couldn't even fly and grew to a making capable of bench pressing earth weights. It was said on panel that Pre Superman was weakened.
Half power weaker? I doubt that. One was FAR weaker than the other. Pre Supes didn't have confidence of the weight of a piece of mountain falling on him. He thought he was going to die because he couldn't support the weight whereas the other Superman was lifting and moving far more than that. One was OBVIOUSLY more powerful than the other.
His power was fluctuating. Digging a 13 mile trench wore him out. If you think Superman can't do this at half power, then he needs to be in the meta tier...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/52449935/SmartSelect_20200429-180924_Chrome.jpg.html
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Struggling to stop a ship and admitted his power depletion had something to do with it.
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I never said half. I said part.
At the beginning of the Lois and Clark arc, it was explained Clark was watching the young Superman alongside the young JL fighting Darkseid, had they failed he was prepared to step in and beat Darkseid.
At that point, he was much stronger than the league.
Later on, he was shown struggling.
As New52 needed to, he borrowed more and more power, and the other was getting weaker and having fluctuations when New52 would borrow, its evident they were powersharing.
Its tough to gauge how much at whatever points, but Supermans power was split into two, specifically because the two were much weaker than the one. And in the arcs that followed in JLA and Superman comics all the way to now from then, that the recombined version is much more powerful.
And what I'm saying is, one was far stronger than the other and the weaker one received more of an amp than the other did when they merged. Its evident in Superman: Lois and Clark. He was still talking about how depleted he was, even by the end while again, we have one bench pressing Earth weights (other showings as well but you get the point).
Even if we include the last issue, he was still straining to break out of vines. Freaking plants. He also mentions himself being weakened here as well.
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/52449943/SmartSelect_20200429-184355_Chrome.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/52449944/SmartSelect_20200429-184411_Chrome.jpg.html
Couple of issues before this, it was outright said he isnt comparable to his clone and he wasn't. Not even close to that power.
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/52449951/SmartSelect_20200429-182825_Chrome.jpg.html
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He mentions himself being weakened yet again. Fts and statements proves they are not comparable. New 52 Superman was getting more powerful whereas this Supes was WAF.
Carver, it isn't a clone. He was split in half. Please, if you're going to try trolling, at least read the comics properly.
Originally posted by JBL
Give me a little while and I will handle all those Superman feats and put them in their place and show you that NONE of them shows light-year speed nor comparable combat speed.
You'll forgive me if I don't hold my breath.
Originally posted by carver9juntai already explained the variation of power levels to you on his last post. You wasted a lot of time on this post for nothing.
And what I'm saying is, one was far stronger than the other and the weaker one received more of an amp than the other did when they merged. Its evident in Superman: Lois and Clark. He was still talking about how depleted he was, even by the end while again, we have one bench pressing Earth weights (other showings as well but you get the point).Even if we include the last issue, he was still straining to break out of vines. Freaking plants. He also mentions himself being weakened here as well.
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/52449943/SmartSelect_20200429-184355_Chrome.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/52449944/SmartSelect_20200429-184411_Chrome.jpg.htmlCouple of issues before this, it was outright said he isnt comparable to his clone and he wasn't. Not even close to that power.
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/52449951/SmartSelect_20200429-182825_Chrome.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/52449952/SmartSelect_20200429-183257_Chrome.jpg.html
He mentions himself being weakened yet again. Fts and statements proves they are not comparable. New 52 Superman was getting more powerful whereas this Supes was WAF.
Originally posted by -Pr-Ok, let's knock down his race with flash first. When Superman stopped to rest, it was stated that flash was only moving away from Superman at a pace of hundreds of miles a second. That proves that flash was running nowhere near his top speed and neither one was was anywhere near lightspeed. Not even close. Remember when flash got those people out of that city at just under light speed? He was moving far faster then. I will get the next one soon.
Carver, it isn't a clone. He was split in half. Please, if you're going to try trolling, at least read the comics properly.You'll forgive me if I don't hold my breath.
