Majestic with creation blades vs cosmic herald Thor

Erm.

That's not the point lol. If he swats Bill aside, that's to be expected, no?

But Bill managed to blitz him with Storm breaker and drew blood when he was amped.

IOW, my main point, that it's too soon and Herald Thor is too inconsistent, is lost on you lot.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm.

That's not the point lol. If he swats Bill aside, that's to be expected, no?

But Bill managed to blitz him with Storm breaker and drew blood when he was amped.

IOW, my main point, that it's too soon and Herald Thor is too inconsistent, is lost on you lot.

No. You’re being disingenuous acting like Bill was any kind of threat. He hit Thor when he wasn’t looking, stop acting like it’s some big thing. But I do agree, Herald Thor doesn’t have enough feats to warrant all of the threads being made about him.

So he took Herald Thor by surprise.

Replace Storm breaker with Majestic and the Creation Blades.

So Majestic gets the jump on him now?

He's faster than Thor, so yes.

Hard to get the drop on someone when you're slower.

Unless you think Herald Thor can react to Majestic.

Thor has no speed to speak of, as a certain thread already proved here.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's faster than Thor, so yes.

Hard to get the drop on someone when you're slower.

Unless you think Herald Thor can react to Majestic.

Thor would have to be actively doing something else, and have Majestic attack him for the situation to be relevant. Because we obviously know what happened to Bill when Thor was actually focused on him.

Well no.

If I am chatting to my friend, and a sloth 5m away initiates an attack towards me, I'd be able to react. If an insect bites me when I'm playing a game, I'd react and swat it.

If a guy stands opposite me and fired a gun at me, it doesn't matter how focused I am, that bullet is hitting me.

Ok, but that’s a false equivalency. Just because Bill hits Thor when he’s not looking, doesn’t mean Majestic will have the same result, when Thor is focused on him, speed or not.

Then that's for the Majestic side to prove, right? That he's at least capable of that speed, fast enough that Thor can't react even if he knows he's in a fight?

I mean, going back to my analogy - if I know I'm in a fight, and thst the other guy is going to shoot me - if he shoots me, all the focus in the world isn't saving me

How fast is Majestic btw?

Originally posted by Stoic
And yet he dealt with Bill with ease. You don't seem to recall this.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Lol, I like how you guys are conveniently leaving out, how Thor casually swatted Bill away like a bug, one page later.

Aye. Imperiex Probes are High Herald tier - and were tearing through WW (a HH), Kyle (a HH), Flash (a HH), MMH (a MH) and Aquaman (a LH), simultaneously.

Grail was taking the JL comprised of WW (HH), Shazam (MH), Cyborg (LH), MULTIPLE GLs (all MH, and at once), etc. And she's High Herald.

High Heralds have these showings. Swatting BRB (a MH) aside like a bug is....really, the least of what a Thor (HH) with OdinForce AND PC stacked on top of his own should be able to do. Stormbreaker shouldn't even tickle - just like in my examples, the HHs weren't tickled by the "lower tiers".

I can go on. Zoom took out the JL. Despero took out the JLA and JSA. Thor? One of the highest of High Heralds? With Allfather and PC amp?

I mean, even with just the Allfather amp BRB was still taking it to him. I mean, I can go on - you all might say I am a Thor hater, but remember I was one of the few that said he was as strong as Superman 🙂

Plus, these are all showings from his own comic. I am not exactly searching comics for low showings, lol.

When he is with the Allfather amp, BRB dodges his attack (and smashes his face in):

And again:

Even catches Mjolnir mid flight:

And when he throws his hammer at Sif? She is able to raise and strike her sword down to BFR it:

Again, this is Thor with the Allfather amp. So base Thor, AMPED.

These aren't me lowballing. I am not doing an abhi of searching through decades of comics and 100s of comics just to find shitty showings. This is all in the same comic book.

Adding the PC on top of this? Doesn't exactly make him abstract or trans or whatever, based on showings.

Obvs he's most likely not trying as hard against bill or sif. And even then Bill can be beastly himself.
When he exerts more effort he is humbling Galactus repeatedly and actually giving a univeral/multiversal entity pause. On one occasion he humbles an amped Galactus with little to no effort.

Not sure how 'trying' increases one's durability, or why he's willingly letting himself get bloodied up. I guess CIS is part of Thor's character, although one would've thought having the Wisdom of Odin should help.

Uh wut?

Lol why do you keep up this pretense of needing me to hold your hand?

BRB, a mid herald, is bloodying him up. Whether he is trying hard or not, he shouldn't be getting blood drawn from him.

If a kid steps up to me and tries to fight me, sure, I wouldn't try as hard as I would in a life or death situation. Especially if it's someone I know.

That doesn't mean I'd let him smash my face into the ground, or let him punch me in the stomach. To do so would be stupid. Character induced stupid, one might say.

So if the kid IS hitting me, and is taking my face and pushing it into the ground, either I am allowing it to happen, or I can't stop it from happening.

Again u r giving too much weight to ure real life analogies.

In comics, characters hold back all the time. They seem to get hurt more easily when dicking around or sometimes when unprepared like in a cheap shot.

In the end, the disparity in power is apparent and made explicit in the book. Even on the surface of it the most novice of readers would knows this is Thor with extra power.
So anything that happened b/n the two is immaterial. The outcome would have been the same whether if Thor was holding back or bloodlusted.
For Bill fans, it is a good showing for him featwise. But lets not lose site of reality.

Holding back doesn't mean durability is affected.

All I need to know is, did Thor power up or down here...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-fb44cf4415eabb597da917702a9d7e1e

He powered down.

To just the Allfather amp. Odin is still a skyfather iirc - the PC, whilst powerful, isn't the Odinforce.