Kylo Ren, Rey (RoS) vs. Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker (RotJ)

Two trilogies decide once and for all who is the most powerful and formidable force users in combat. All versions are from the films I listed at that point.

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Originally posted by SquallX
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Anakin and Luke, ofcourse.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Anakin and Luke, ofcourse.

Based on what besides your bias?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Anakin and Luke, ofcourse.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Based on what besides your bias?

Hi Broly, how's life?

They seem more impresive to me. Vader would beat any on saber combat, and Luke's force powers are beyond.

What feats? What vadar feats?? Vadar got beat by a rookie Luke when his training was unfinished.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what? Kylo and Rey have far superior feats, statements, duels, etc.

Your opinion is respected, although Vader and Luke have fought and defeated more skilled individuals.

Who have they defeated that had more skill?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Your opinion is respected, although Vader and Luke have fought and defeated more skilled individuals.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Who have they defeated that had more skill?

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Who have they defeated that had more skill?

Vader defeated countless Jedi, and Luke was in par with Vader. That's more impressive than anything Kylo or Ray have done (Defeating Sidious due to plot device isn't impressive, in case you were thinking about it)

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, they have not. Ben best Luke. Vader lost to Luke. Rey had Palpatines power. Her feats crap all over Vader and Lukes as does Rens.

Luke demonstrated that he was superior to Kylo at the end of ROTJ. It's called continuity. Kylo was ultimately outbest by his master.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Luke demonstrated that he was superior to Kylo at the end of ROTJ. It's called continuity. Kylo was ultimately outbest by his master.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Vader defeated countless Jedi, and Luke was in par with Vader. That's more impressive than anything Kylo or Ray have done (Defeating Sidious due to plot device isn't impressive, in case you were thinking about it)

Countless Jedi were killed by droid fodder so I don’t see why that’s so impressive for vadar to do it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
By doing what? In that film his feats are trash compared to theirs. Rey beats Palpatine straight up. Luke took it like a chump. No cheap attacks this time. Ren and Rey are too much. Rey can jump over tie fighters what can Luke do struggle at Jabbas?

Continuity eludes you, Kylo was in the end, defeated by Luke. Your only ace here is Rey.

Rey didn't beat Palpatine. Palpatine destroyed himself. His power bounced on him, in one of the most hilarious plot devices used by movies in history.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Continuity eludes you, Kylo was in the end, defeated by Luke. Your only ace here is Rey.

Rey didn't beat Palpatine. Palpatine destroyed himself. His power bounced on him, in one of the most hilarious plot devices used by movies in history.

Rey used the sabers to redirect the fl just as Windu did. No Anakin to save him. Yoda was disarmed by the fl not Rey.

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Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Countless Jedi were killed by droid fodder so I don’t see why that’s so impressive for vadar to do it.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Countless Jedi were killed by droid fodder so I don’t see why that’s so impressive for vadar to do it.

Kylo and Rey have defeated no one in saber combat besides themselves. Vader's combat experience>>>>>> them.

It's logic.