Kylo Ren, Rey (RoS) vs. Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker (RotJ)

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kylo killed Snoke, Luke dies and admits in the final film he was wrong to hide there out of fear. He admits he was wrong. Poor guy.

Rey used the sabers to redirect the fl just as Windu did. No Anakin to save him. Yoda was disarmed by the fl not Rey.

😂

Your first line literaly has nothing to do with combat feats. We are debating who defeats who, not who has stronger emotions.

Luke outbest Kylo in their final combat. Combat feats are on Luke's side.

All Rey did was use a basic Jedi technique to redirect Sidious' lightning, that's not impressive, and useless against two individuals which won't use lightning.

Vader and Luke dominate.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Your first line literaly has nothing to do with combat feats. We are debating who defeats who, not who has stronger emotions.

Luke outbest Kylo in their final combat. Combat feats are on Luke's side.

All Rey did was use a basic Jedi technique to redirect Sidious' lightning, that's not impressive, and useless against two individuals which won't use lightning.

Vader and Luke dominate.

Luke never bested him. His actions caused his death. Kylo was the suprem leader Luke admitted he was wrong for hiding out of fear.

Yoda failed. So you need power to do so. Rey and windy were successful Yoda failed.

What in[restive feats does Vader or Luke have? Let us compare.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Kylo and Rey have defeated no one in saber combat besides themselves. Vader's combat experience>>>>>> them.

It's logic.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Kylo and Rey have defeated no one in saber combat besides themselves. Vader's combat experience>>>>>> them.

It's logic.

The only people Vadar defeated on screen was an extremely Old Dooku, and Obi Wan, who was also old.

Rey defeated palpatine, as well as kicking much ass throughout the films with and without her saber.

Rey took down Luke without even trying, as well as all of snokes guards, and the knights of ren.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kylo decimated Rey in this film. Had her at his mercy.

Luke never bested him. His actions caused his death. Kylo was the suprem leader Luke admitted he was wrong for hiding out of fear.

Yoda failed. So you need power to do so. Rey and windy were successful Yoda failed.

What in[restive feats does Vader or Luke have? Let us compare.

I know that nothing I say will change your opinion quanchi and I don't have time for our old long debates. I just wanted to have a quick debate with you, for old times sake 😛

Nice to see ya though, perhaps when I get free time I can come back and have a melee with you.

Take care dude.

P.D. Nice to c ya too Broly.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I know that nothing I say will change your opinion quanchi and I don't have time for our old long debates. I just wanted to have a quick debate with you, for old times sake 😛

Nice to see ya though, perhaps when I get free time I can come back and have a melee with you.

Take care dude.

Kylo and Rey tbh especially if you restrict it to films only. They can blow up drop ships that are somewhat bigger than X wings.

Ren and Rey win. Mainly because the ST sucked so bad with power scaling