Originally posted by Surtur
You play any KOTOR 3?
No. As I told Peach back in the day...
I HATE MMORPGs!!!! I hate them with a passion. Hate them so so so very much! The "in game events" the "grinding" the "griefing" from troll players, the interference and fighting for resources with kids who just want to be assholes. So so so many things I hate about MMOs and MMORPGs especially. Hate them. F*ck KOTOR3 and the fail-horse it rode in on.
Originally posted by Surtur
I can't say I hate it, I just hate that it's an online game. I'm sure the gameplay itself isn't bad and from what I've read the story was kinda interesting. I mean...Overwatch looks pretty cool. I remember being excited when I first saw a trailer and bummed when I found out it was an online game. There is also a D&D online game I've been tempted to play.But that surprise twist that happens towards the end of the first game...oh man, for me that was even more of a shock than "Luke, I'm yo daddy". I've often thought the first KOTOR game would make an excellent trilogy of movies. And I think anyone who goes into it having never played the game will be shocked(if the movie is done right).
Also Darth Revan is just plain badass.
Same. Thought Overwatch was going to be an FPS RPG that had co-op options similar to the Borderlands series. When I found out it was basically a pure FPS tournie game with no single player or co-op main story, immediately discarded it as shit. Played it a few times on my friend's account. Did really well because but got bored extremely extremely quickly with it. Once you learn the maps, it's the same stupid shit, over and over and over. Played Destiny PvP longer than Overwatch because at least Destiny felt like it had more nuance to the PvP than Overwatch. I still don't quite "get" the massive draw to Overwatch.
And you're not the first person to wish the KOTOR series was made into an Old Republic trilogy. Just the stories told of the Mandalorians WTFPWNING everyone including the Jedi in the galactic war is awesome. Those are stories that would make for amazingly legendary scenes.
Originally posted by Surtur
But back to KOTOR, the first game will always stand out for me. It was groundbreaking. I didn't hate KOTOR 2 like a lot of people did. It was enjoyable and I have used mods to restore content that didn't make it into the game. I liked that the game had prestige classes and that you could turn some of your party members into jedi. See that is the thing, the game did have faults, and if they had come out with a single player game for KOTOR 3 that combined the best of the first two games and fixed the faults that would have been awesome.
Peach and I argued about this, too. She did not find the KOTOR story particulary ground breaking like many of us did. She referred to it as cliche and over-done. She's absolutely right even at that time.
However, it was ground breaking to me. That twist reveal was incredible. And the RPG progression elements AS WELL AS BEING IN A STAR WARS UNIVERSE was super fun and enjoyable. I loved the Prequel Trilogy and the Original Trilogy. It was the exact game I needed at that time. KOTOR took almost all the good from KOTOR, threw out the bad, and added some more goodness. While the story was 8/10 of KOTOR's story, it was still really damn good and I enjoyed it. That special lightsaber crystal that levels up with your character as you get stronger? One of the best damn game mechanics/items I've ever seen. It is subpar when you get it but gradually becomes the best piece to put in your light saber. The fact that you can influence the light-side or dark-side of the crystal based on their "karma" system made it that much better. Just simply leveling up to make your sword stronger was enjoyable to me.
And what you said on that last part: I wish super super badly they released a KOTOR3. Taken the lessons learned from both the former games and released a masterpiece. They wanted money. The passion as gone and they wanted a cash grab with yet another MMORPG. And they poured tons into marketing of Old Republic to hook the gamers (it worked).