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Started by dadudemon36 pages
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I really liked Fallout: New Vegas. Because, much like the pre-Bethesda Fallout games, even your smaller decisions had long-term impacts across the world. It actually felt like your choices and actions mattered. Which is one thing I really don't like about vanilla Fallout 4. Not only do your choices only impact a relatively limited number of things, you're forced along a fairly linear path as well, in terms of the main story. I mean, yeah, you can pick different factions to side with, but it's still the same in the end for the most part, with mostly minor differences in a few quests and eventual outcomes.

You captured some of the essence of why Fallout: New Vegas is the best entry into the series. It's just one of the reasons among many. NV is in my top 3 favorite games of all time. A noticed a lot of older gamers (millennials like you and I) like a lot of older games from their youth and that's simply nostalgia getting the better of them. It's part of why I think I loved Super Metroid so much: nostalgia. But it was just a damn good game the first play through. But NV? Despite the bugs, it was a masterpiece. A truly amazing game. Just a wonderful game. And I played it after I was an adult for many years. F4 was okay. It didn't quite scratch that NV itch I had for a new NV-like game. But it was decent enough. Then F76...just had to be a massive pile of shit. Made me so sad. 🙁 Legit sad. Between studying, work, and working out, I don't do much else. Gaming is a hobby I'd like to bring back. F76 was the chosen one. It was supposed to be the chosen one, at least.

Can we get some F5 love? And then KOTOR3? When I think of FPS RPGs, I immediately think of Fallout.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
But there are mods like Depravity and Project Valkyrie which expand the way you can progress through the main story line. It's by no means perfect (there are a few elements the mod authors added that I really don't like, to be honest), but it's nice to give you more options and choices. For example, Depravity allows you to pursue a more villainous approach at the start and do things like take control of Diamond City as its leader, and offers alternatives to skip past some of the more tedious parts of the main quest (no more chasing Dogmeat around while making him sniff old cigars).

Didn't get into the mods. I should. I see a group making a NV game/expansion that looks amazing. Hoping they do well. Probably the biggest fan-made expansion is the Skyrim Enderal Forgotten Stories expansion. It's decent. In fact, it is almost good enough to be a legit game in the series but some of the voice acting is obviously super shitty and you can tell it is fanmade. But they revamped the alchemy system. It feels like you never have enough gold, however, as leveling up skills is purely based on purchasing books and reading them: HATED IT. So I did what any normal person would do and used console commands to give myself 10 million gold. Still wasn't f*cking enough to buy the needed skill books!! FFS! haha They did not think that game mechanic through. It's fan made: balancing gets you what you can get.

My steam name is dadudemon - add me if you use steam and we can co-op. That goes for anyone.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
One game that I liked overall but hated the fast travel system was Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen. The monster fighting mechanics are great, but that fast travel system irritated the crap out of me and made me want to rage quit more than once. Another game that had traveling mechanics that annoyed me to no end was Far Cry 2, mainly because you frequently had to travel half way across the damn map just to go get some malaria pills. And I hated your "buddies" (or whatever the hell they were called again), who did little more than make your missions more complicated and shit all over you if you decided to ignore what they wanted.

I haven't played any of those. But the "buddies" you describe reminds me of Borderlands 3 if you play as Fl4k: his pets routinely walk in the way when you are picking up items or looking at their states. It's annoying as hell. They need to make it to where the pets always stand behind you and out of your way instead of CONSTANTLY walking in front of you.

Beyond Good and Evil is a great game.

Originally posted by Surtur
Beyond Good and Evil is a great game.

I'll take a look. Thanks for the rec.

Fallout NV is a far superior game. The weapons system and the graphics are the only things Fallout 4 did better IMO, and they went too far with the graphics honestly, it looks cartoon-y. New Vegas, despite having inferior graphics, had a lot more atmosphere, the gameworld almost felt like a character by itself.

Must piss Bethesda off, for all the acclaim 3 & 4 receive almost everyone recognizes New Vegas as a better game, and the people who made it did it in 18 months. Lol.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'll take a look. Thanks for the rec.

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Originally posted by samhain
Fallout NV is a far superior game. The weapons system and the graphics are the only things Fallout 4 did better IMO, and they went too far with the graphics honestly, it looks cartoon-y. New Vegas, despite having inferior graphics, had a lot more atmosphere, the gameworld almost felt like a character by itself.

Must piss Bethesda off, for all the acclaim 3 & 4 receive almost everyone recognizes New Vegas as a better game, and the people who made it did it in 18 months. Lol.

Agreed. New Vegas was the best of the series, imo. Though I did like the exploration/locations/setting of F3 in the Capitol Wasteland far more than the boring desert setting of the Mojave wasteland in New Vegas. Everything else was better in New Vegas, including the DLC's.

Imo, Dead Money (New Vegas) and Point Lookout (of F3) were the best of the DLC's.

I liked FO 4. I got addicted to building stuff and the shooting mechanics were far better than any of the other Fallouts. This is the first FO where I didn't have to rely on the VATS system all the time.

The story was weaker than the previous two though.

VATS is much more suited for an RPG than shooting in real time, imo. If you wanna play a game for its shooting mechanics then you play a pure shooter not a hybrid rpg/shooter. I love VATS in New Vegas (not that I Always used it, of course) but in F3 it was overpowered as f***.

IDK...I found the shooting enjoyable in FO 4 though, and I don't believe that an RPG can't have good shooting mechanics.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
VATS is much more suited for an RPG than shooting in real time, imo. If you wanna play a game for its shooting mechanics then you play a pure shooter not a hybrid rpg/shooter. I love VATS in New Vegas (not that I Always used it, of course) but in F3 it was overpowered as f***.

Right, the past decade is full of them. Pick up F.E.A.R. if you want a good shooter. Get Max Payne, or any given tactical shooter.

Half Life 2 was nowhere close to the pure shooter F.E.A.R. 1 was, but no one complained about it because no one played HL2 for the shooting elements.

Yes, I agree with that. My only point was that VATS is more fitting for an rpg. I still use real time shooting in Fallout games. I just use VATS a lot more. There are several VATS related perks in New vegas that make using VATS much more appealing.

Why can't I have both?

You can.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yes, I agree with that. My only point was that VATS is more fitting for an rpg. I still use real time shooting in Fallout games. I just use VATS a lot more. There are several VATS related perks in New vegas that make using VATS much more appealing.

Well yeah it would have to be considering the shooting outside of the VATs system in NV was not great. I still like 3 and NV, but I appreciated the better shooting in 4. Now if they amp up the story and polish the shooting, the game will be phenomenal.

Originally posted by cdtm
Did you have a 360? Play Shadow Complex? Because I just found out there's a remaster on Steam.

Also, no one's mentioned Ori and the Blind Forrest, that's said to be a real masterpiece of a Metroidvania. I only heard about it when hunting up reviews on Dust an Elysian Tail, which is more of a hybrid hack and slash with metroidvania elements. Might be too casual for some, but I love it.

But Ori looks like the real deal.


Shadow Complex preceded the current wave, but is also worth. Like I said, so much solid material to choose from. If it looks good, it's probably good. The worst of all these games is still like a B+.

Ori and the Blind Forest will likely be considered a classic. I would recommend trying it first if you can though, or doing your research. It's not as combat-centric as some games, and many players have complained it's too difficult.

Originally posted by dadudemon

No "metroidvania" game has given me the satisfaction and enjoyment that Super Metroid did. It's still the gold standard. But some games have come close as of late.

Oh absolutely. Samus is still our Queen. It was Metroid: Fusion that did it for me. Gameplay aside, I loved it embracing its horror elements. The SA-X was so scary at the time. Just knowing you'd eventually have to fight it...**** the X-Parasites. Seriously. Creepy little jerks.

I love the Prime sub-series too, but I'm glad these other games are around to help evolve the genre. It could easily have stagnated to death, as Metroid alone can only do so much.

The trouble with Prime is it was on the Gamecube.

I can say that because I have a Gamecube, and Prime. Something about the brightness on that system was just way off, as I couldn't see much in darker areas without ramping up the settings, and that made everything look washed out.

They say the mythical components fixed this, if you were fortunate enough to be able to find a set, could afford it, and had a GC that still had the inputs.

Corruption showed us the series was best expressed on the Wii, which is probably why they updated Prime and Echoes for the motion controls in the trilogy release.

I'd highly recommend getting the trilogy on Wii though, if you have that. It's just such an improved experienced compared to the 2 GameCube iterations, which were still pretty good.

Then you can be all set for Prime: 4...whenever they get around to actually finishing that. haermm

Originally posted by StyleTime
Oh absolutely. Samus is still our Queen. It was Metroid: Fusion that did it for me. Gameplay aside, I loved it embracing its horror elements. The SA-X was so scary at the time. Just knowing you'd eventually have to fight it...**** the X-Parasites. Seriously. Creepy little jerks.

I love the Prime sub-series too, but I'm glad these other games are around to help evolve the genre. It could easily have stagnated to death, as Metroid alone can only do so much.

Fusion was good. Being weak and depowered added a layer of horror-vulnerability. The fact that SA-X was so strong that it could kill you easily (and it looked like Varia Suit Samus from Super Metroid) added another layer of fear. On top of that, the creepy clip-clopping SA-X does when "patrolling" the corridors on the station makes it seem creepy, as well.

Finally, the mind-f*ck when you realize there are multiple SA-X parasites walking around the station adds an extra creep factor.

However, I don't think I would have appreciated that game as much if I didn't play Super Metroid, first. The fact that I was "super strong" in Super Metroid and then I have to basically avoid "myself" from the last game made it more interesting. Like most players, I tried to fight the parasite at one point and got my ass handed to me. Stupid parasite using my suit tech!

And I enjoyed the Prime series. But the room puzzles were sometimes just too convoluted and frustrating to make the game enjoyable. I don't want to spend 2 hours figuring out a room. And it ruins the game to have to go online to and look up a solution, imo. So I either spend the 2 hours failing to figure out the puzzle or I look up the solution and spend 5 minutes.

That's also my problem with some of the Zelda series puzzles.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Corruption showed us the series was best expressed on the Wii, which is probably why they updated Prime and Echoes for the motion controls in the trilogy release.

I'd highly recommend getting the trilogy on Wii though, if you have that. It's just such an improved experienced compared to the 2 GameCube iterations, which were still pretty good.

Then you can be all set for Prime: 4...whenever they get around to actually finishing that. haermm

Was thinking about getting a wii for backwards compatibility with my Gamecube. collection, and so I can use a better connection then composites.

Who has a gaming pc here?