Originally posted by heru
I hear what your saying and I'm not saying Supes have not had a upgrade, but Mangog alone is a all of Asgard threat, hell he's a Odin level villian. Superman is not a skyfather. Superman is not even a Odin threat. Thor alone will give Supes a run a for his money, and Odin will destroy Superman with ease. Interms of strength, and durability Superman is not beating this dude. It would take the strongest version of Supes to beat Odin or Mango, and it still would be a toss up.
Characters operate at different levels at different times. That's why abc logic is faulty.
Odin has operated at or below high Herald before. Galactus has operated below trans before. Superman has operated above skyfather before.
Thor koed Mangog before with one blow to the stomach.
Mangog got killed by the Sun.
You want to use Mangog at his most powerful? Fine. We do the same thing for Superman. How powerful was Odin when Mangog operated? I remember an arc where Odin and Asgardians were portrayed as weak as humans (dying from falling several feet off bridges and horses, Thor being koed by falling off Mangogs back, etc).
No one on Asgard, not even Odin at his best, is even close to Superman in physical strength and speed. If you disagree then again I can post strength feats proving it. When Mangog fought Thor all those times, Mangog was only a few times stronger than Thor at the most (I have proof).
I can prove that your stance isn't sound.
Basically you are saying that there is no amount of strength Superman can have that would make him beat Mangog. That implies Mangog can withstand infinite force. If you disagree then you have to agree that there is a certain quantifiable strength that can put Mangog down.
If that's so, then how much strength do you think? Able to lift a planet? 10 planets? A thousand planets? A million? A billion? What amount?
Originally posted by h1a8
Characters operate at different levels at different times. That's why abc logic is faulty.
Odin has operated at or below high Herald before. Galactus has operated below trans before. Superman has operated above skyfather before.
Thor koed Mangog before with one blow to the stomach.
Mangog got killed by the Sun.
You want to use Mangog at his most powerful? Fine. We do the same thing for Superman. How powerful was Odin when Mangog operated? I remember an arc where Odin and Asgardians were portrayed as weak as humans (dying from falling several feet off bridges and horses, Thor being koed by falling off Mangogs back, etc).No one on Asgard, not even Odin at his best, is even close to Superman in physical strength and speed. If you disagree then again I can post strength feats proving it. When Mangog fought Thor all those times, Mangog was only a few times stronger than Thor at the most (I have proof).
😂 When DID Superman operate above Skyfather level before?
Name me the comic
Originally posted by h1a8
Characters operate at different levels at different times. That's why abc logic is faulty.
Odin has operated at or below high Herald before. Galactus has operated below trans before. Superman has operated above skyfather before.
Thor koed Mangog before with one blow to the stomach.
Mangog got killed by the Sun.
You want to use Mangog at his most powerful? Fine. We do the same thing for Superman. How powerful was Odin when Mangog operated? I remember an arc where Odin and Asgardians were portrayed as weak as humans (dying from falling several feet off bridges and horses, Thor being koed by falling off Mangogs back, etc).No one on Asgard, not even Odin at his best, is even close to Superman in physical strength and speed. If you disagree then again I can post strength feats proving it. When Mangog fought Thor all those times, Mangog was only a few times stronger than Thor at the most (I have proof).
What strength feat has Superman performed that Mangog has attempted and failed?
Originally posted by heru
I hear what your saying and I'm not saying Supes have not had a upgrade, but Mangog alone is a all of Asgard threat, hell he's a Odin level villian. Superman is not a skyfather. Superman is not even a Odin threat. Thor alone will give Supes a run a for his money, and Odin will destroy Superman with ease. Interms of strength, and durability Superman is not beating this dude. It would take the strongest version of Supes to beat Odin or Mango, and it still would be a toss up.
Jane kicks Mangogs tail, and she couldn't even handle that jobber Gladiator.
Originally posted by h1a8If where talking about standard vs standard Supes looses the majority. I said in order for Superman to stand a chance he would have to be at his strongest and even that would be debatable, fighting Mangog or Odin. Mangog strength is unlimited and fued by a billion billion souls of hatred, and Odin can magically enhanced his as well as speed. So once again Superman would have to be at his strongest level to at least stand a chance. Anything less he will loose almost all the time. What he relies on in most battles to win is his superiority. In this fight basic vs basic he's not the superior one.
Characters operate at different levels at different times. That's why abc logic is faulty.
Odin has operated at or below high Herald before. Galactus has operated below trans before. Superman has operated above skyfather before.
Thor koed Mangog before with one blow to the stomach.
Mangog got killed by the Sun.
You want to use Mangog at his most powerful? Fine. We do the same thing for Superman. How powerful was Odin when Mangog operated? I remember an arc where Odin and Asgardians were portrayed as weak as humans (dying from falling several feet off bridges and horses, Thor being koed by falling off Mangogs back, etc).No one on Asgard, not even Odin at his best, is even close to Superman in physical strength and speed. If you disagree then again I can post strength feats proving it. When Mangog fought Thor all those times, Mangog was only a few times stronger than Thor at the most (I have proof).
I can prove that your stance isn't sound.
Basically you are saying that there is no amount of strength Superman can have that would make him beat Mangog. That implies Mangog can withstand infinite force. If you disagree then you have to agree that there is a certain quantifiable strength that can put Mangog down.
If that's so, then how much strength do you think? Able to lift a planet? 10 planets? A thousand planets? A million? A billion? What amount?
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You can't feat share that feat to Superman though, different writers have different interpretations on characters power levels
Why not? You feat share on Doomaday well enough ignoring his long list of trans and Skyfather level bodies because Superman killed him.
The Radiant, a Guardian, and Darkseid among them.
Originally posted by Adam Grimeswho else always says that Superman is one of his favorite characters and then votes against him every time?
I don't know what gang are you referring to tbh 🤔