Superman vs. Mangog

that feat has been debunked
https://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t657638.html

also, as a wise man once said

Originally posted by MrMind
Superman>sun>mangog>asgard

Originally posted by MrMind
that feat has been debunked
https://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t657638.html

also, as a wise man once said

That has not been debunked. I went through each point he made and all I see is him posting scans and adding his own imagination to each one.

I looked at the thread.

I'm convinced by his arguments.

You share his bias. I'll be breaking that post down in the near future.

Originally posted by cdtm
I looked at the thread.

I'm convinced by his arguments.

😂

Of course you do

Originally posted by TheHulkster
That has not been debunked. I went through each point he made and all I see is him posting scans and adding his own imagination to each one.

wait are you Horrificus? I didn't see you in that thread

I swear dc fans can't stand with us in debating 😂 its to the point philo left the forum completely. its fiction so it doesnt matter but its still funny how peeps desperately want dc to be superior and fail everytime xD

Originally posted by h1a8
Characters operate at different levels at different times. That's why abc logic is faulty.
Odin has operated at or below high Herald before. Galactus has operated below trans before. Superman has operated above skyfather before.
Thor koed Mangog before with one blow to the stomach.
Mangog got killed by the Sun.
You want to use Mangog at his most powerful? Fine. We do the same thing for Superman. How powerful was Odin when Mangog operated? I remember an arc where Odin and Asgardians were portrayed as weak as humans (dying from falling several feet off bridges and horses, Thor being koed by falling off Mangogs back, etc).

No one on Asgard, not even Odin at his best, is even close to Superman in physical strength and speed. If you disagree then again I can post strength feats proving it. When Mangog fought Thor all those times, Mangog was only a few times stronger than Thor at the most (I have proof).

I can prove that your stance isn't sound.
Basically you are saying that there is no amount of strength Superman can have that would make him beat Mangog. That implies Mangog can withstand infinite force. If you disagree then you have to agree that there is a certain quantifiable strength that can put Mangog down.
If that's so, then how much strength do you think? Able to lift a planet? 10 planets? A thousand planets? A million? A billion? What amount?

Writers don't believe Superman operates at "skyfather" level you do, he recently went all out and blitzed eradicator with a series of punches and didnt do ANY notable damage to him (Superman #3 to Superman #4)

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I swear dc fans can't stand with us in debating 😂 its to the point philo left the forum completely. its fiction so it doesnt matter but its still funny how peeps desperately want dc to be superior and fail everytime xD

In that thread, was Philo saying that if Thor crosses the void from Asgard to Earth, he will be a super giant?

didn't look at that thread. If I have interest in the near future I'll make a 4 page essay debunking that nonsense

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Writers don't believe Superman operates at "skyfather" level you do, he recently went all out and blitzed eradicator with a series of punches and didnt do ANY notable damage to him (Superman #3 to Superman #4)

You ignored the entire post.
FYI, skyfather level (whatever that means) has nothing to do with anything.
We compare strength, durability, versatility, speed, etc when debating.
Odin, a skyfather, is physically weaker and slower than Superman. Superman is physically stronger and faster than Mangog.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Writers don't believe Superman operates at "skyfather" level you do, he recently went all out and blitzed eradicator with a series of punches and didnt do ANY notable damage to him (Superman #3 to Superman #4)

Superman almost never hits someone at close to full strength.

And yet he beat Darkseid's face so badly his eyes swelled shut.

The same Darkseid who was an even opponent for Anti Monitor.

The same Darkseid who Lobo hurt his fists punching. You know, the Lobo who tanked Despero's best punches, and routinely makes mince meat of high heralds.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
In that thread, was Philo saying that if Thor crosses the void from Asgard to Earth, he will be a super giant?

I keep waiting for Hulkster's debunk, but I have a feeling it will never come

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Writers don't believe Superman operates at "skyfather" level you do, he recently went all out and blitzed eradicator with a series of punches and didnt do ANY notable damage to him (Superman #3 to Superman #4)

His series of blitz-punches only did a little damage to Doomsday, too.

Clark is a pussy, let's face it.

Superman wins 10/10. Mangog has no answer to his speed nor his heat vision.

Originally posted by heru
If where talking about standard vs standard Supes looses the majority. I said in order for Superman to stand a chance he would have to be at his strongest and even that would be debatable, fighting Mangog or Odin. Mangog strength is unlimited and fued by a billion billion souls of hatred, and Odin can magically enhanced his as well as speed. So once again Superman would have to be at his strongest level to at least stand a chance. Anything less he will loose almost all the time. What he relies on in most battles to win is his superiority. In this fight basic vs basic he's not the superior one.

Originally posted by cdtm
Superman almost never hits someone at close to full strength.

And yet he beat Darkseid's face so badly his eyes swelled shut.

The same Darkseid who was an even opponent for Anti Monitor.

The same Darkseid who Lobo hurt his fists punching. You know, the Lobo who tanked Despero's best punches, and routinely makes mince meat of high heralds.

Oh the same darkseid that power girl made bleed, and aquaman trident hurt? Scaling never works

Originally posted by h1a8
You ignored the entire post.
FYI, skyfather level (whatever that means) has nothing to do with anything.
We compare strength, durability, versatility, speed, etc when debating.
Odin, a skyfather, is physically weaker and slower than Superman. Superman is physically stronger and faster than Mangog.

space cheese is fine and all, but comparative fights, Supes doesn't casually manhandle heralds like Mangog on a consistent basis. It takes the whole asgard to put mangog down. He struggles with FAR less, let me know if you want me to the pull scans out. Eradicator was just one example

Originally posted by h1a8
You ignored the entire post.
FYI, skyfather level (whatever that means) has nothing to do with anything.
We compare strength, durability, versatility, speed, etc when debating.
Odin, a skyfather, is physically weaker and slower than Superman. Superman is physically stronger and faster than Mangog.