Has Dragon Ball Super surpassed comics in vs debates

with this infamous feat from Battle of gods, has it changed the way z characters are treated, and are they in a completely different tier from say peeps like Thanos, Supes, Justice League, Darkseid, etc the top tiers from Marvel and DC

would certain hax still be effective against the gods, goku, angels, top tiers from super

Also what tier would you put them at if they were in DC or Marvel

They would completely destroy Marvel and DC heros. That much we know.

They've always been above the people you've named here. Cell Kameha started off against Gohan at solar system busting level and became far more powerful after that. Goku even during his teen yrs would laugh at the way the people above fight.

Yeah Super heroes are more powerful than most mainstream comic heroes standards levels.

Some amped versions like Cosmic Armour Superman or Thanos with basically any cosmic artifact he's used would stomp DBS into the dirt, and the cosmics in DBS are laughably inferior to cosmics in comics, but the actual heroes are much more powerful.

😂 😂

even someone like android 17 has evolved from high heralds level in dbz into low end skyfather lvl in dbs, and goku in ultra instinct form or lssj broly would be well beyond skyfather tiers

Dragon Ball has surpassed dc/marvel heralds after the cell saga. in dc/marvel it would be extremely rare for a herald level capable of bust a solar system like perfect cell, you need trans level beings to do that

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah Super heroes are more powerful than most mainstream comic heroes standards levels.

Some amped versions like Cosmic Armour Superman or Thanos with basically any cosmic artifact he's used would stomp DBS into the dirt, and the cosmics in DBS are laughably inferior to cosmics in comics, but the actual heroes are much more powerful.

basically this

Yet fanboys will still argue UI Goku would get scraped by SS.

Nemebro pretty much hit it right on the head.

Originally posted by MrMind
even someone like android 17 has evolved from high heralds level in dbz into low end skyfather lvl in dbs, and goku in ultra instinct form or lssj broly would be well beyond skyfather tiers

Dragon Ball has surpassed dc/marvel heralds after the cell saga. in dc/marvel it would be extremely rare for a herald level capable of bust a solar system like perfect cell, you need trans level beings to do that

basically this

17's a beast, his recent showings impressed me

IYO: Who is the strongest Dragon Ball character that forum Superman could beat? Meaning Superman with cis on, pis off, full capacity, forum fight.

Superman has arguably surpassed comics for vs debates, so he’s the watermark for whether or not DB has as a whole.

Everybody in super is literally a high tier+ sooooo don't know

Jiren only using a fraction of his power shook the entire world of the void. The world of void is INFINITE space and again, he didnt even use a piece of his power...

YouTube video

Goku did the same thing. Goku was near depleted of power and tanked a black hole being thrown on top of him and was smiling. He was being punched by a being who's punches was warping reality (Goku was weakened) and withstood those hits as if it was nothing. This doesn't even count him moving through time stop or punches being able to shatter universes. Specter dies.

wait how did spectre enter the conversation?

Cosmics was brought up in the thread

Originally posted by JBL
They would completely destroy Marvel and DC heros. That much we know.

See we agree once in a while

Also, no that's ridiculous. Nobody in Super is beating Spectre lol what 😂 😂

Originally posted by carver9
Jiren only using a fraction of his power shook the entire world of the void. The world of void is INFINITE space and again, he didnt even use a piece of his power...

YouTube video

Goku did the same thing. Goku was near depleted of power and tanked a black hole being thrown on top of him and was smiling. He was being punched by a being who's punches was warping reality (Goku was weakened) and withstood those hits as if it was nothing. This doesn't even count him moving through time stop or punches being able to shatter universes. Specter dies.

You are so 2 face. When Dragonball does or say something, we take it at face value, but when it’s comics, you do everything to lowballed it.

Case and point, your example. How many times did you argued that Clark and Rag shaking the infinite that is the Phantom Zone not a feat worth debating again?

I don't keep up with DBS, but it sounds like they surpassed the popular heralds and such, not comics as a medium. You'd just have to match them against higher power level comic characters.

Just like when any other character gets upgraded.

the difference between anime and comics, is anime characters power level progress over time through training and beating foes

comic characters power more or less stay the same, unless they get either depowered or amped

oh btw carver, Spectre has feats to suggest he can destroy the entire db multiverse