Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah Super heroes are more powerful than most mainstream comic heroes standards levels.Some amped versions like Cosmic Armour Superman or Thanos with basically any cosmic artifact he's used would stomp DBS into the dirt, and the cosmics in DBS are laughably inferior to cosmics in comics, but the actual heroes are much more powerful.
Not really. They have precious few solid feats, and fanboys make a lot of unverifiable assumptions in their power scaling.
Originally posted by StyleTime
I don't keep up with DBS, but it sounds like they surpassed the popular heralds and such, not comics as a medium. You'd just have to match them against higher power level comic characters.Just like when any other character gets upgraded.
No, they haven't surpassed heralds. Nothing they've done is beyond Silver Surfer, or a New God like Lightray.
Originally posted by Smurph
IYO: Who is the strongest Dragon Ball character that forum Superman could beat? Meaning Superman with cis on, pis off, full capacity, forum fight.Superman has arguably surpassed comics for vs debates, so he’s the watermark for whether or not DB has as a whole.
Zeno.
Seriously.
What am I reading? Marvel high tier characters spite. If Goku could bust an infinite sized universe, that would be the equivalent of a basic type 1 multiverse. There are no infinite sized realms or universes in the entire franchise. DBU has 1 heaven, 1 hell, 1 physical world and 1 kai realm (and until Zamasu’s arc, 2 timelines), while a single Marvel Universe has endless timelines, countless heavens and hells, and countless planes of existence in between, many adyacent realities and infinite spatial dimensions, all tied up by a single Yggdrasil, of which the 9 mayor branches at different levels of existence are The Nine Realms, and Yggdrasil is said to hold countless realms more, and that each of those realms are fully formed Universes in and on itself.
And 1 Yggdrasil = 1 Marvel Universe, each of which has all that I described above, then there are different numbered Universes which are their own version of Yggdrasil housing their individual versions of all that I described as well as that of The Nine Realms of their own, these infinite Universes grouped in infinite Multiverses.
Originally posted by carver9
Jiren only using a fraction of his power shook the entire world of the void. The world of void is INFINITE space and again, he didnt even use a piece of his power...Goku did the same thing. Goku was near depleted of power and tanked a black hole being thrown on top of him and was smiling. He was being punched by a being who's punches was warping reality (Goku was weakened) and withstood those hits as if it was nothing. This doesn't even count him moving through time stop or punches being able to shatter universes. Specter dies.
1.The only feat on that level (Except Zeno).
2.Requires the clash of two characters.
3.The feat isn't instant,its a chain reaction.
4.It didn't even happen on screen which just puts more doubts.
Hit's time dimension isn't even Planet Sized,let alone Universe.ROSAT is only Planet Level in size.The World of Void isn't infinite,it was a mistranslation (It is Eternal),and even if we assume the world of void is infinite shaking it isn't a Universal feat,since its empty and the only matter in there is the arena.
Well I'm just wondering - I mean, we have debates and arguments for days/weeks on here on ENGLISH comics, whether the writer meant X when he wrote Y, that kinda thing.
And for anime/manga, we kinda have to (if we don't read/speak Japanese) rely on what someone else translated for us. And then rely on that for feats.
What if the translation is wrong?
Originally posted by StyleTime
I don't keep up with DBS, but it sounds like they surpassed the popular heralds and such, not comics as a medium. You'd just have to match them against higher power level comic characters.Just like when any other character gets upgraded.
Zeno could erase every female being in the universe without lifting a finger 😛
Originally posted by MrMind
that happens quite often actually, one time dbz manga translated buu destroyed a galaxy, when the original text was saying buu destroyed planets one by one for a long time
Exactly.
Imagine none of us knew English....and had to rely on say, Abhi for his translations of Surfer, Thor and Superman comics.
As I pointed out, we have endless debates on whether a writer meant multiverse or universe or omniverse or whatever...we have people misreading English, mixing 'neutral' up with 'natural', and misreading scans, either intentionally or not.
And now we're meant to just accept what some kid with HS level Japanese, who may or may not have an agenda's translations? Uhuh.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilRead the rules before making off topic question threads. You have a history of this nonsense. Next time it will be a long temp ban.
with this infamous feat from Battle of gods, has it changed the way z characters are treated, and are they in a completely different tier from say peeps like Thanos, Supes, Justice League, Darkseid, etc the top tiers from Marvel and DCwould certain hax still be effective against the gods, goku, angels, top tiers from super
Also what tier would you put them at if they were in DC or Marvel