Sundipped Superman vs these powerhouses.

Started by Stoic16 pages

Sentry is all that is needed. There was no debunking, just overactive imaginations, and false interpretations.

Originally posted by Diesldude
where does it say it was never stable? The exact opposite was said, that it was better than the current multiverse. It was his masterpiece and you're saying it was unstable.

But at least you guys are admitting that superman destroyed a multiverse even if it was unstable.

It collapses due to being unstable. It is not cemented in time to prevent collapse. Superman's punch prevented cementing. The book is clear on this, not to mention confirmed by editor.

Supes indirectly destroyed the Multiverse, by punching WF, which stopped him from completing his Multiverse and replacing it with our's.
NO amount of conjecture changes this FACT

The Multiverse would have been completed if WF had replaced it.
It wasn't completed, because it didn't have a place in creation/existence.

Period

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Supes indirectly destroyed the Multiverse, by punching WF, which stopped him from completing his Multiverse and replacing it with our's.
NO amount of conjecture changes this FACT

The Multiverse would have been completed if WF had replaced it.
It wasn't completed, because it didn't have a place in creation/existence.

Period

Scans contradict this. The writers comments do not change the fact WF said his creation was complete, and only needed to replace the existing multiverse.

The Crisis Anvil should appear if the Earth is about to be destroyed

yes or no

Originally posted by cdtm
Scans contradict this. The writers comments do not change the fact WF said his creation was complete, and only needed to replace the existing multiverse.

The design is complete but not given the opportunity to stabilize. The scans actually support this.

We already discussed that and I think both of you two should know writer interviews are inadmissible on this forum especially when they're contradicting the comics
WF blatantly said only those that might last (stable)he will usher toward reality, and those that unstable he will return them to the forge
https://ibb.co/j6QGcPv

Originally posted by Diesldude
Thats already been answered..

Why don't you stop telling me to go back and re read posts and do so yourself. Obviously you missed my rebuttal or failed to read and absorb properly. Go back and read my posts slowly, All of your arguments your side have come up with have been debunked pretty thoroughly. If you don't understand, discuss it wirhbAlberto and the hulkster. maybe if the 3 of you can put yours heads together, the clock being right twice a day just increased by 300%.

Your post doesn't make sense. So youre saying that if World Forger would've striked the anvil, his Multiverse would've came over? You're also saying that he didn't strike the anvil which didn't bring the multiverse over but Superman still destroyed his multiverse even though he never struck the anvil to bring it over? Wtf. How did he destroy a multiverse that was never transported?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Supes indirectly destroyed the Multiverse, by punching WF, which stopped him from completing his Multiverse and replacing it with our's.
NO amount of conjecture changes this FACT

The Multiverse would have been completed if WF had replaced it.
It wasn't completed, because it didn't have a place in creation/existence.

Period

This writer is saying exactly what I am saying. World Forger never brought the Universe over, so it was impossible for Superman to destroy something that was never there unless people are saying Superman punched WF, the shockwaves opened up a portal which made Superman fist appear in that multiverse and his punch which was transported destroyed everything there.

Originally posted by cdtm
Scans contradict this. The writers comments do not change the fact WF said his creation was complete, and only needed to replace the existing multiverse.

The multiverse was never replaced. He didn't slam his hammer to bring it over, so it was never transported. Are you all saying Supes destroyed the other multiverse.? The one that they were standing in?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
We already discussed that and I think both of you two should know writer interviews are inadmissible on this forum especially when they're contradicting the comics
WF blatantly said only those that might last (stable)he will usher toward reality, and those that unstable he will return them to the forge
https://ibb.co/j6QGcPv

Then why are Grant Morrison interviews allowed? Anyhow, I didn't admit any interview and nothing contradicts that scene. The scene references "world's" not a multiverse. The multiverse collapses due to WF being interrupted.

The new multiverse "blinked out of reality" as per the comic. It was even referenced as a "hypothetical dimension" at one point. It was a multiverse, but it obviously was lacking something the current multiverse had. If it was able to stand on its own, it would not have disappeared.

Anyways, what is it about the punch some of u are claiming happened? That shockwaves indirectly blew up a multiverse?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Then why are Grant Morrison interviews allowed? Anyhow, I didn't admit any interview and nothing contradicts that scene. The scene references "world's" not a multiverse. The multiverse collapses due to WF being interrupted.
No, But on that thread I already gave you enough scans as proofs and you just ignoring them
Second, That is how WF creating the main multiverse, By creating stable worlds and ushering them toward reality, And the unstable reality he returning them to the forge to let Barbatos consuming.And he calling this multiverse is his materpiece and trying to usher this multiverse to replace the main multiverse

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
No, But on that thread I already gave you enough scans as proofs and you just ignoring them
Second, That is how WF creating the main multiverse, By creating stable worlds and ushering them toward reality, And the unstable reality he returning them to the forge to let Barbatos consuming.And he calling this multiverse is his materpiece and trying to usher this multiverse to replace the main multiverse

Did this/his multiverse replace the multiverse?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The new multiverse "blinked out of reality" as per the comic. It was even referenced as a "hypothetical dimension" at one point. It was a multiverse, but it obviously was lacking something the current multiverse had. If it was able to stand on its own, it would not have disappeared.

Anyways, what is it about the punch some of u are claiming happened? That shockwaves indirectly blew up a multiverse?

No. They are saying Superman PUNCH blew up the mutliverse. Not the shockwaves

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The new multiverse "blinked out of reality" as per the comic. It was even referenced as a "hypothetical dimension" at one point. It was a multiverse, but it obviously was lacking something the current multiverse had. If it was able to stand on its own, it would not have disappeared.

Anyways, what is it about the punch some of u are claiming happened? That shockwaves indirectly blew up a multiverse?

WF also said They have never experienced truth as pure as this place
https://ibb.co/4SNBmLv
Besides, Your references are out of context, The blinked out of reality is when Shayne unsure about his existence but starman scanned him and said he is real. So there is another problem, If the multiverse wasn't real(hypothetical) then why Shayne is real as anyone else in the DCU?

Originally posted by carver9
Did this/his multiverse replace the multiverse?
No, But the sixth dimension multiverse is as real as the main multiverse.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's exactly what happened. Forger's created universe don't self destruct. They decay and fall into dark multiverse where Barbatos destroys them. But Barbatos is chained and the multiverse didn't go into the dark multiverse. The only conclusion which is supported by Forger's words is that Superman destroyed it.

Anything else is fanfiction.

You lost there as well. Still butthurt over it?

Gentlements, never NOT EVEN in THE slightest believe ABHI on anything comic related without reading the comic for yourself

HERE'S the ISSUE with why all of this is laughable evidence:

EXHIBIT 1: The only problem is he didn't finish his process.
In order to bring the universes into excistence he needs to strike the anvil (big bang) and it is made:

EXHIBIT 2: Everything said and shown the whole arc states he has to strike the anvil:

EXHIBIT 3: He never got to strike the forge to create the universes:

EXHIBIT 4: The Tool was destroyed by supes punching the world forger.
U could still see it floating in the pieces:

Now I might even be able to say that the TOOL (forge) was just reflecting space.
But that sounds to easy

Stop embarassing yourself, troll

😂

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
WF also said They have never experienced truth as pure as this place
https://ibb.co/4SNBmLv
Besides, Your references are out of context, The blinked out of reality is when Shayne unsure about his existence but starman scanned him and said he is real. So there is another problem, If the multiverse wasn't real(hypothetical) then why Shayne is real as anyone in the DCU?

Out of context? Im quoting the book. Not sure why he survived, but it is kind of poetic since he's the only one that made a connection with the justice league.

But anways, the book is already making it known to the reader what that multiverse was about. It's literally telling us that wf's new multiverse that "blinked out of reality" and was referenced as a "hypothetical dimension" is not quite = to the current.

In any case, u can call it a standard multiverse if u want. Wutevs.
Im just interested about what people think happened.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Out of context? Im quoting the book. Not sure why he survived, but it is kind of poetic since he's the only one that made a connection with the justice league.

But anways, the book is already making it known to the reader what that multiverse was about. It's literally telling that wf's new multiverse that "blinked out of reality" and was referenced as a "hypothetical dimension" is not = to the current.

I also was quoting the book
WF(the mutliverse creator) himself said it is real(not hypothetical), it is stable(otherwise it won't usher toward reality). And we clearly see his creation wouldn't blink out of reality(Shayne)
Anyway, The only thing I can think about what the WF's multiverse lacked is the life essences of those who had a place in the WF's multiverse, But it hadn't any connection to Superman destroying the multiverse(Well, In some way, It had, It makes superman not a big murderer that killed a entire multiverse people....)