The murder of Ahmaud Arbery/All three perpetrators found guilty

Started by Silent Master123 pages

So that everyone is clear, do you agree that both the side defending the shooting without 100% proof and those claiming racism without 100% proof are wrong?

Originally posted by Raptor22
your hypocrisy gets old. Sry if u dont like me pointing it out and proving it.

But keep closing ur eyes and pretending its not happening.

I just wonder if this is going 2 come back to bite u when u ask someone to prove a claim in the future.

Your selective outrage over "hypocrisy" isn't really any better.

People here already refuse to back up claims. They literally did it earlier in this thread when they said this was racist and I dared to ask for evidence.

But okay, opinion noted I will check this thread again in a few days to see if any evidence of racial motivation has popped up.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I wanted to be able to make a judgement. It is indefensible.

Fair enough there. I just don't like seeing that shit.

The jury will need to see it though, they'll make the call.

@surt

What was the proof that lead you to believe Arbery committed a burglary with "100%" certainty?

Originally posted by Robtard
@surt

What was the proof that lead you to believe Arbery committed a burglary with "100%" certainty?

I will be glad to answer your question, but first you may recall many pages ago I asked you for proof this was racist. You prepared to answer that yet? And nope "they were white and he was black" is not acceptable btw.

Originally posted by Robtard
@surt

What was the proof that lead you to believe Arbery committed a burglary with "100%" certainty?

^ Can someone else ask Surt this? He's playing his usual games and dodging. Thanks in advance.

first you have to take away his oxycontin, weed, & booze. then after a few hours and a nap, he should be sober enough for rational discourse

Originally posted by Robtard
^ Can someone else ask Surt this? He's playing his usual games and dodging. Thanks in advance.

I will be glad to answer them as soon as you answer my question, thanks in advance!

Originally posted by Silent Master
So that everyone is clear, do you agree that both the side defending the shooting without 100% proof and those claiming racism without 100% proof are wrong?
i think ill wait to get answers to some of my questions until i answer anymore.

Fair is fair

Ok, I'll do you the favor and ask him.

Surt. if Rob answers the question you asked him pages ago, will you answer the question he just asked you?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Ok, I'll do you the favor and ask him.

Surt. if Rob answers the question you asked him pages ago, will you answer the question he just asked you?

Yes I will.

Originally posted by Surtur
I will be glad to answer your question, but first you may recall many pages ago I asked you for proof this was racist. You prepared to answer that yet? And nope "they were white and he was black" is not acceptable btw.
ive answered basically every question u have asked me.

When will u answer mine?

"Where was your cry for proof for the burglry claims? Where were ur claims that being a theif doesn't justify his killing?"

So basically, everyone is wrong. except for the people that who wanted to wait for the trial so that all the evidence gets shown.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So basically, everyone is wrong. except for the people that who wanted to wait for the trail so that all the evidence gets shown.
who is trailing?

Thanks for spotting the typo, I've edited the post.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thanks for spotting the typo, I've edited the post.
👆

Originally posted by Raptor22
ive answered basically every question u have asked me.

When will u answer mine?

"Where was your cry for proof for the burglry claims? Where were ur claims that being a theif doesn't justify his killing?"

You answered *some* questions, but not all. So tis only fair I answer some of yours, but not all. I see only two, so I guess I'll pick one. Where do I say it wasn't justified? Well, on page two I say talk about how I'm not saying he deserved this or the guys were right. I also have come out against citizens arrest as a whole more than once:

Originally posted by Surtur
Wasn't cold blood, there was a confrontation. Apparently at one point the guy had run up to their car and run away.

I'm not saying he deserved to die or that these guys were right, but the narrative of "these whiteys just wanted to kill them a negro!" seems false.

Now if this post is not good enough for you okay I will be very clear: this man did not deserve to die. Even if he was a thief he did not deserve to be killed. Hell not only that, even if they flat out witnessed him stealing and he shouted "I'm thieving!" I don't think they were justified in attempting a citizens arrest.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So basically, everyone is wrong. except for the people that who wanted to wait for the trial so that all the evidence gets shown.
thank u for admitting that I've been right this entire time.

Originally posted by Robtard
Haven't heard about the boot claim. But in the video still you can see Arbery is wearing some kind of low-cut shoe, not a boot.

It was all over the net with screenshots in terrible quality. It's still up. And it does look like high-topped shoes that could pass off as work boots. However, the guy holding the camera was cinematographer for a Michael Bay movie because he could not hold the camera still.

Originally posted by Robtard
We knew the hammer belonging to Arbery and being stolen was BS yesterday, as English went on record saying nothing was stolen.

That's incorrect and I covered why your assumption is incorrect, already.

What we did know was the claim of a hammer being involved during the assault and death. What we didn't know is where it came into the "story." There's no way English could have taken a full inventory from his home and known if anything was missing.

What was debunked was where the hammer came from: not Arbery. And it is still in question where the hammer came from, at all, or if it is a hammer to begin with.

This one is not completely thrown out (no pun intended), yet - it could still be in a bucket or locker somewhere as evidence. What we do know is it was not carried by Arbery and was already present at the scene before Arbery entered. What if it is the McMichael's and they threw it at him?

The hammer is not ruled out. The hammer was not brought into the confrontation by Arbery. That's what was busted.

Originally posted by Robtard
English had also noted that he personally didn't believe that was Arbery when he went on record.

English being wrong doesn't matter. The fact that he matches the exact appearance of the person in the autopsy, matches the location near where the confrontation occured, and was identified by his family does matter.

Or perhaps you're confusing the October 2019 person with the Feb 2020 person? There was a different person casing that house in October. You can clearly see that they are different people.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That's incorrect and I covered why your assumption is incorrect, already.

What we did know was the claim of a hammer being involved during the assault and death. What we didn't know is where it came into the "story." There's no way English could have taken a full inventory from his home and known if anything was missing.

What was debunked was where the hammer came from: not Arbery. And it is still in question where the hammer came from, at all, or if it is a hammer to begin with.

This one is not completely thrown out (no pun intended), yet - it could still be in a bucket or locker somewhere as evidence. What we do know is it was not carried by Arbery and was already present at the scene before Arbery entered. What if it is the McMichael's and they threw it at him?

The hammer is not ruled out. The hammer was not brought into the confrontation by Arbery. That's what was busted.

English being wrong doesn't matter. The fact that he matches the exact appearance of the person in the autopsy, matches the location near where the confrontation occured, and was identified by his family does matter.

Or perhaps you're confusing the October 2019 person with the Feb 2020 person? There was a different person casing that house in October. You can clearly see that they are different people.

Doesn't seem to be incorrect regarding the hammer, see:

"video demonstrates that this particular object was already on the ground before Arbery reached the scene, so he could not have placed the item at that location. Finally, English told The Washington Post that nothing had been recently stolen from his construction site." -Snip

I've literally posted the story which you claimed was wrong about there being a question as to which camera instance captured Arbery.