Originally posted by SurturYes, my personal opinion is an overreaction like that comes more from hate than anger... I think most people will honestly think that after seeing the video.
If they show race was a factor okay, I'll be curious as to the evidence.But the thing is even if they don't prove it...at least some on the jury will probably assume it. Can you agree with that?
Originally posted by Silent Master
You should be more like me, I was smart enough to wait for a trial, so that we could see all the evidence. 😈
[Me after thinking about your post for a bit and realizing you're right, yet again...and I spend far too much time digging up the facts of the case still to get some details wrong]
Originally posted by dadudemon
[Me after thinking about your post for a bit and realizing you're right, yet again...and I spend far too much time digging up the facts of the case still to get some details wrong]
U can't be blamed for getting some details wrong in an ever changing story.
But okay sure if it's like a story about something that happened in 1899 you get that shit right motherf*cker.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!Assuming they're racist considering the optics isn't a crazy stretch of the imagination. Two white men in GA chase down am unarmed black men in a truck and it ends with his death. Add to it that it was seemingly being swept under the run until footage came out adds to "racism" aspect. Could these two guys be not racist? Sure, it's possible.
Yes, my personal opinion is an overreaction like that comes more from hate than anger... I think most people will honestly think that after seeing the video.
Now assuming Arbery was a thief just because he entered a construction zone while taking nothing, takes a bit more of the imagination. I've entered construction sites as a kid/teen, not to steal, I just genuinely found it interesting how a house is made.
Originally posted by Surtur
I will fully admit I don't research like DDM. The simple truth of the matter is: most of the time people do not deserve the level of research he does when he argues with them. They gas light, ignore, or just dismiss him...I've seen it over and over, even after it's clear he put a lot of thought into a post. Then they turn around and accuse him of the very same thing they are doing. It's bizarre and DDM is a lot more kind than I am because he still puts in the effort.
I never feel like I waste my time when I put research and actual math into the topics. Even if people dismiss it and call it gaslighting, deep down, I likely made an impression.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
one thing is clear, they put a low value on his life.
Chasing after him with guns because they thought he was the one that stole their gun and was caught burglarizing (or casing to burgle) a house in the same area, again?
Unsure if it is so clear that they put low value on his life as much as they put value on their own life.
I can definitely say they put value on their own life to the point of wanting to arm themselves against a potentially armed robber/burglar. That much is clear.
Originally posted by Robtard
Assuming they're racist considering the optics isn't a crazy stretch of the imagination. Two white men in GA chase down am unarmed black men in a truck and it ends with his death. Add to it that it was seemingly being swept under the run until footage came out adds to "racism" aspect. Could these two guys be not racist? Sure, it's possible.Now assuming Arbery was a thief just because he entered a construction zone while taking nothing. Takes a bit more of the imagination. I've entered construction sites as a kid, not to steal, I just genuinely found it interesting, how a house is made.
It's not a stretch considering him calmly walking up, but sprinting out.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I never feel like I waste my time when I put research and actual math into the topics. Even if people dismiss it and call it gaslighting, deep down, I likely made an impression.Chasing after him with guns because they thought he was the one that stole their gun and was caught burglarizing (or casing to burgle) a house in the same area, again?
Unsure if it is so clear that they put low value on his life as much as they put value on their own life.
I can definitely say they put value on their own life to the point of wanting to arm themselves against a potentially armed robber/burglar. That much is clear.
You know this is a fair comment, cuz even if you don't get through to the person you're replying to maybe someone else will learn something.
Originally posted by Robtard
Assuming they're racist considering the optics isn't a crazy stretch of the imagination. Two white men in GA chase down am unarmed black men in a truck and it ends with his death. Add to it that it was seemingly being swept under the run until footage came out adds to "racism" aspect. Could these two guys be not racist? Sure, it's possible.Now assuming Arbery was a thief just because he entered a construction zone while taking nothing. Takes a bit more of the imagination. I've entered construction sites as a kid, not to steal, I just genuinely found it interesting, how a house is made.
When the story is summarized like that, yes, it seems much worse.
But when summarized honestly, this is how it should read:
Two white men, a father and son pair, are whipped up into a vigilante frenzy trying to detain a burglar that was just caught in the act, who likely stole thousands of dollars of equipment which included a hand gun in previous burglaries. The father and son end up killing the 25 year old when trying to confront him when the man attacks them. 3 or more videos existed in the prosecutor department's hands prior to one of the edited videos being made public including that showed the 25 year old man shot and collapse. The video was released on purpose by the man's family's lawyer because the case wasn't getting traction and was passing from prosecutor to prosecutor. However, this stunt may cause harm to prosecution because it taints the jury selection process. It is unknown if the father and son pair were justified with "first hand knowledge" to pursue the young man in their truck. Evidence points to a no.
But that's adding in lots of details that frames the situation and few people want to think about the facts and how difficult this case is.
Originally posted by dadudemonI think you are mistaking a defence narrative/excuse for any kind of truth... We will see.
I never feel like I waste my time when I put research and actual math into the topics. Even if people dismiss it and call it gaslighting, deep down, I likely made an impression.Chasing after him with guns because they thought he was the one that stole their gun and was caught burglarizing (or casing to burgle) a house in the same area, again?
Unsure if it is so clear that they put low value on his life as much as they put value on their own life.
I can definitely say they put value on their own life to the point of wanting to arm themselves against a potentially armed robber/burglar. That much is clear.
Originally posted by Raptor22
or he could go a step further like me and take a more proactive approach and speak out against accusing the victim of crimes without any proof.
Calling him a victim assumes he was innocent, which you have no proof of. Better to be like me and wait for all the evidence, instead of rushing to judgement.
Originally posted by Silent MasterDDM has said many times he believes everyone is racist. A racial overtones would certainly fit his world view.
Calling him a victim assumes he was innocent, which you have no proof of. Better to be like me and wait for all the evidence, instead of rushing to judgement.
Originally posted by Robtard
I've literally seen thieves pocket one or more items and then calmly walk out of the store as to not attract attention. His sprinting doesn't indicate much.
True but in real life, I've only ever seen burglars and robbers run. Because the smooth ones you describe, no one notices.
My favorite was the one of the young black man (he looked 17) who stole a 5k-10k purse or backback from Louis Vuitton.
The police and mall security were running after him. I saw him running my direction to get out of the door (I was waiting in line to buy macaroons).
I stepped out of the way. I figured he had to poop or was late. Then I saw the police and mall security running after shortly after that.
Mall security is not allowed to pursue on foot so they stopped at the door and I asked them what was wrong. Then they said he stole shit from Louis Vuitton and it was $5-$10k bag. Looked like a small pink backpack that he was holding, to me.
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