San Antonio Thought Policing: Saying 'Chinese Virus' Is Now Illegal

Originally posted by Eon Blue
You sure do love to speak in redundant circles.

Thought policing is the correct term seeing as how specific entities wish to police the known nomenclature which happens to be factual and in accordance with reality and geography.

But they do not want to police it. They merely affirm that they are still committed to the status as it is. It is a pandering attempt to score political points with their constituency, without actually doing anything.

At the same time it also functions as a useful news story for the opposing side, as we can see in this thread.

Originally posted by Artol
But they do not want to police it. They merely affirm that they are still committed to the status as it is. It is a pandering attempt to score political points with their constituency, without actually doing anything.

At the same time it also functions as a useful news story for the opposing side, as we can see in this thread.

Policing occupies several facets of societal integration and does not necessarily concern itself with the structural law abiding principles, but enforcement of a law or regulation. The word is twofold in effect.

The latter part of your statement is null and void, as most new stories cut through myriad of layers in the narrative of both left and right wing stories.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Policing occupies several facets of societal integration and does not necessarily concern itself with the structural law abiding principles, but enforcement of a law or regulation. The word is twofold in effect.

The latter part of your statement is null and void, as most new stories cut through myriad of layers in the narrative of both left and right wing stories.

The issue isn't whether this falls under policing, the issue is that it is nothing. An affirmation as they did it, is completely meaningless. I do understand why you are focussing on the "policing" aspect though, as the "Saying 'Chinese Virus' Is Now Illegal" aspect is very clearly wrong. Do you really not feel like you gave this story a spin that's not accurately reflecting what has happened?

That's a bold claim, you don't think there are news outlets that tailor their message to a specific audience on the political spectrum?

Perhaps you are not truly aware of several inherent elements within the societal and cultural impact of the term “policing”. It doesn’t necessarily have a one hundred percent stock in “tickets” and “fines”, yet the ideas espoused by the powers that be which happens to be unnecessary laws and regulation in the form of political correctness.

Never said otherwise: all new sources will tailor their own spin on their own subjective ideals. You seem to be a prime example that takes personal umbrage to “The Chinese Virus”, even though that’s exactly what it is. You’re going around in circles.

I don't have an issue with someone using the term "Chinese virus", I find it interesting why they would choose to do so. I don't find the argument "it's just geographically accurate" very convincing, and believe it is much more a political decision.

What I have been taking "umbrage" at is claiming that a meaningless resolution of a city council that in essence states "we still think anti-semitism and racism against Asians is bad" as something much bigger and more far reaching

Bitter as it may be how could you not call it The Chinese Virus? It came from China and caused chaos. The fact that it killed so many people earned it a coined name.

Originally posted by Artol
I don't have an issue with someone using the term "Chinese virus", I find it interesting why they would choose to do so. I don't find the argument "it's just geographically accurate" very convincing, and believe it is much more a political decision.

What I have been taking "umbrage" at is claiming that a meaningless resolution of a city council that in essence states "we still think anti-semitism and racism against Asians is bad" as something much bigger and more far reaching

Yet you forget to take into consideration that it is very much a geographical issue and that many individuals do not have the leisurely gain to call it anything other than what it is in very blunt terms of language.

If you want to speak of meaninglessness, then perhaps you should direct it at the parties that created an anthill out of a mere mold in the grass which seems to be something you’re fond of.

Originally posted by Emmy Evangeline
Bitter as it may be how could you not call it The Chinese Virus? It came from China and caused chaos. The fact that it killed so many people earned it a coined name.

Does using the term "Chinese virus" have an aspect of anger then, in your opinion?

Originally posted by Emmy Evangeline
Bitter as it may be how could you not call it The Chinese Virus? It came from China and caused chaos. The fact that it killed so many people earned it a coined name.

Bingo. 👆

Originally posted by Artol
Does using the term "Chinese virus" have an aspect of anger then, in your opinion?

You seem to equating terms to anger on your own part.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Yet you forget to take into consideration that it is very much a geographical issue and that many individuals do not have the leisurely gain to call it anything other than what it is in very blunt terms of language.

If you want to speak of meaninglessness, then perhaps you should direct it at the parties that created an anthill out of a mere mold in the grass which seems to be something you’re fond of.

I am not sure if you actually believe that. Surely you can see that whether to call it "coronavirus" or "Chinese virus" has become a political issue in the United States?

I feel like I am, I think that Ted Cruz took something and made it into a much bigger issue. I also think that right leaning news sites (like the Daily Mail) then picked that up because this blown up stories works well for their readership. And I think that it is useless what the San Antonio city council did. All of this is mainly political theater for both sides.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
You seem to equating terms to anger on your own part.

I posed a question, I could imagine that using the term is associated with anger for some people. Anger at the Chinese government, perhaps anger at elites that are perceived as incompetent, etc.

Like I said multiple times in this thread though, the lens I'm looking at it more is one of a political fight. It seems to me that the vast majority of the argument over whether to call it "Coronavirus" or "Chinese virus" comes from a fight between Democrats and Trump led Republicans as to where to lie the blame. Democrats believe Trump is responsible for a bad response to it, and a political response to that is to lay blame on China, one aspect of which is using the term "Chinese virus".

That many people are just exposed to this framing through filters of media or people they know is a given of course.

Demographics are about 2-3% Asian in San Antonio. And they're been getting complaints.

In a population that size, they're representative enough for spineless politicians to crap their pants any time they complain about anything. Such as over 600 asians complaining about "hate speech".

They probably know full well Trump has nothing to do with a general hate speech against asians, but it makes an easy narrative for a Democratic leaning population, to placate them.

Originally posted by Artol
I am not sure if you actually believe that. Surely you can see that whether to call it "coronavirus" or "Chinese virus" has become a political issue in the United States?

I feel like I am, I think that Ted Cruz took something and made it into a much bigger issue. I also think that right leaning news sites (like the Daily Mail) then picked that up because this blown up stories works well for their readership. And I think that it is useless what the San Antonio city council did. All of this is mainly political theater for both sides.

I've seen the phrasing made into an issue briefly. No one really seems to be talking about it now though.

Not exactly sure why the term itself is banned, if the impetus for action seems to be a rash of general hate speech at a local Chinese restaurant. I'd imagine that goes way beyond uttering the words "Wuhan virus" in their presence.

I'd also guess this is being perpetuated by kids. I can remember quite a few kids in my school days saying things to antagonize the Pakistani convenience store owner claiming there was piss in his drinks, and if he complained accusing him of being a terrorist.

Originally posted by Artol
The city of San Antonio passed a resolution to denounce hate speech

Which is thought policing in its most basic form.

In George Orwell's 1949 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, the Thought Police (Thinkpol) are the secret police of the superstate Oceania, who discover and punish thoughtcrime, personal and political thoughts unapproved by the government. The Thinkpol use criminal psychology and omnipresent surveillance via informers, telescreens, cameras, and microphones, to search for and find, monitor and arrest all citizens of Oceania who would commit thoughtcrime in challenge to the status quo authority of the Party and the regime of Big Brother.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Police

One City Council member objective. When they were voting to the resolution, he had this to state about it:

“Would I be committing a hate crime if I said that the Asian flu came from Asia? Or that the West Nile virus came from the West Nile area? Would I be discriminating against those folks? Apparently through this resolution you’re saying I would, and you’d want to throw me in jail for that,” said Finger.

He said that in an attempt to “mitigate [his] sentence” he’d offer them a “plea bargain,” and displayed a city document requesting citizens to report violations of San Antonio’s “Stay Home, Work Safe Order.”

Finger then proceeded to pull out a set of binoculars and state that he had seen city council members Roberto Treviño and Manny Pelàez not wearing their facemasks.

He also pulled out a measuring tape, presumably to indicate that the council members had not been maintaining proper social distancing, but his microphone was apparently muted.

https://thetexan.news/san-antonio-city-council-passes-resolution-condemning-hate-speech-use-of-the-term-chinese-virus/

The implications, of course, would be that this comes with a fine or jail time. Citations similar to what others received for social distancing requirements. Passing this type of resolution clearly implies it becomes a municipal statute that can be enforced by the police similar to what they do in the UK with their thought policing.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Which is thought policing in its most basic form.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Police

One City Council member objective. When they were voting to the resolution, he had this to state about it:

https://thetexan.news/san-antonio-city-council-passes-resolution-condemning-hate-speech-use-of-the-term-chinese-virus/

The implications, of course, would be that this comes with a fine or jail time. Citations similar to what others received for social distancing requirements. Passing this type of resolution clearly implies it becomes a municipal statute that can be enforced by the police similar to what they do in the UK with their thought policing.

Here's the ******* who proposed the resolution:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Nirenberg

He has a history of this kind of thing. He lead a charge on removing Chick-Fil-A, for example.

If a progressive jerk like this is around, odds are he's back by a lot of progressive peers, and votes for by progressive constituents.

Even though Trump put millions of Asians and Asian Americans at risk of being attacked by some unhinged Trumpers when he kept ranting "Chinese virus!" in an attempt to deflect away from his disastrous handling of covid-19 with the lies, spins and gaslighting, "we have it contained", "this is their new hoax", "in a few days we will have close to zero cases", this is a silly law.

Originally posted by Robtard
Even though Trump put millions of Asians and Asian Americans at risk of being attacked by some unhinged Trumpers when he kept ranting "Chinese virus!" in an attempt to deflect away from his disastrous handling of covid-19 with the lies, spins and gaslighting, "we have it contained", "this is their new hoax", "in a few days we will have close to zero cases", this is a silly law.

Are jews under attack by Covid-19 hysteria too?

I mean, I thought anti-Semitism was already covered by existing law. And I haven't heard reports of anyone making anti-Semitic rants in connection to this thing.

Originally posted by Robtard
Even though Trump put millions of Asians and Asian Americans at risk of being attacked by some unhinged Trumpers when he kept ranting "Chinese virus!" in an attempt to deflect away from his disastrous handling of covid-19 with the lies, spins and gaslighting, "we have it contained", "this is their new hoax", "in a few days we will have close to zero cases", this is a silly law.

This type of hysterical and dishonest bullshit needs to die. You and everyone like you needs to stop this. You're causing problems and whipping people up into frenzies with lies like this.

I'm serious.

Those were Trump's words/actions.