Superman, Majestic and Omni-Man vs Sentry, Hyperion and Blue Marvel

Originally posted by Diesldude
I was hoping you’d bring those scans up.
I didn’t see any shield around Dawn or the surfer saying he was protecting her.
Does Dawn have Big Bang level durability? Of course not, so how did she survive?

It was because they were Traveling through time not regular space so weren’t impacted by the Big Bang. You can even conclude that when they traveled back to the big bang it was reference to a fixed point in time instead of space.

Lol no durability feat there.

On galan’s incubator cell they were ahead of the universal decay and were nowhere near the big bang when it happened.

Light from our big bang is hitting us now do we have big bang level durability too? Of course not, How close were they to the explosion? if galan and the crew died by it's radiation and not the blast it's safe to say that they were far from its starting point. This is why ithe big bang is not even mentioned while riding on galan's ship but it was mentioned when they time traveled back in time.

So no Surfer didn't tank the Big bang exploding in his face like you're trying to get everyone to think and that's why no one ever brought it up in all this time because it's not a durability feat.

https://imgur.com/a/iJbFWZZ

Originally posted by TheHulkster
https://imgur.com/a/iJbFWZZ

Owned

Originally posted by TheHulkster
https://imgur.com/a/iJbFWZZ

Originally posted by carver9
Owned

He countered one argument that he was shielding her, soomething I had considered but wanted proof. When this lockdown is over imma buy you cheer poms because of all the cheerleading you do..

Originally posted by Diesldude
He countered one argument that he was shielding her, soomething I had considered but wanted proof. When this lockdown is over imma buy you cheer poms because of all the cheerleading you do..

https://youtu.be/Dz24kKWGlT8

Not sure about going through a big bang more than once, but he def dit it once.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Not sure about going through a big bang more than once, but he def dit it once.

I think so too, it was when he and Dawn were going back in time and it was stated on panel that they arrived at the Big Bang but I don’t think they took the blast head on because they were traversing time instead of space.

@diesl

actually to touch base on Dawn the answer to that has been answered in a few comics before when they first met. Shes protected by surfers power cosmic (this is also shown by the ring surfer gave her that’s part of himself). It’s protected her from reality warping as well. Not to mention being close to his board puts her in range of his power cosmica protection. Part of this was briefly touched here. The reason she is able to breath in space is because of the power cosmic:

Keep in mind they had traveled through stars, at speeds faster then light which should tear her to atoms etc etc which she wouldn’t have durability against. When just being on the board was bypassed surfer then gave her a piece of him for protection (part 1):

(Part 2) notice ‘I can breath again’ :

(Part 3) notice the ring:

Comic after this, notice they crashed into a planet. She should of died from that if not protected:

The Big Bang was never referenced to be a fixed point in time in the comic. The one thing that needs to be kept in mind is that they ‘crashed into the Big Bang’. The power cosmic is simply what protected them:

The ship Galan was in split split the Alpha/Omega in two which caused the Big Bang. Keep in mind Surfer was holding onto it he wouldn’t of had the protection galactus would of inside of the ship. The difference is Galan at the time didn’t have the power cosmic. He received it from that event. Surfer already had the power cosmic:

Still doesn't answer why he held onto it at all. If he can survive it unaided he wouldn't have bothered with the ship.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Still doesn't answer why he held onto it at all. If he can survive it unaided he wouldn't have bothered with the ship.

I believe the reason he held on was simply to get into the his universe after the Big Bang. I say that because he mentions that the only way to get back is with the ship. I can only assume that means because it plays a part in the Big Bang it’s key to getting back to their universe from the old universe:

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I believe the reason he held on was simply to get into the his universe after the Big Bang. I say that because he mentions that the only way to get back is with the ship. I can only assume that means because it plays a part in the Big Bang it’s key to getting back to their universe from the old universe:

He went to the other universe on his own, but he didn't think he could come back into his universe and needed to be in Galactus's ship.

While traveling back in time, When they got the point in time of the big bang, they drew out the craziness, nothing like that while on galan's ship. It was also drawn ahead of the blast. Universal decay and then the new beginning. Definitely don't think he tanked it.

Originally posted by Diesldude
I think so too, it was when he and Dawn were going back in time and it was stated on panel that they arrived at the Big Bang but I don’t think they took the blast head on because they were traversing time instead of space.

They ended up even in the universe/multiverse predating the current one. Even before the point where Galactus escaped his dying universe/multiverse.

The only time he was point blank of a big bang was when he followed G's ship into the new reality. It collided with the alphex and the omigron causing a big bang and ushering in a new universe/multiverse.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
They avoided the big bang there. He thought that he and Dawn were going to crash into the big bang, but they leapfrogged point of the explosion. The whole scene was them travelling through time.

They ended up even in the universe/multiverse predating the current one. Even before the point where Galactus escaped his dying universe/multiverse.

The only time he was point blank of a big bang was when he followed G's ship into the new reality. It collided with the alphex and the omigron causing a big bang and ushering in a new universe/multiverse.

Yup agreed, they were traveling through time and jumped over it. Not normal space so wouldn't have been impacted by the big bang. Time travel crap.

And on galan's ship they were ahead and racing away.

This is why I don't think he tanked the big bang

Originally posted by Diesldude
Yup agreed, they were traveling through time and jumped over it. Not normal space so wouldn't have been impacted by the big bang. Time travel crap.

And on galan's ship they were ahead and racing away.

This is why I don't think he tanked the big bang

Galactus' ship collides with the Alphex and the Omegron. The Big Bang is ignited from that collision point. They are epicenter.

https://imgur.com/a/s7hhMlu

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Galactus' ship collides with the Alphex and the Omegron. The Big Bang is ignited from that collision point. They are epicenter.

https://imgur.com/a/s7hhMlu

No they are ahead of it. The panel before, prior to this one, you can see the distance clear between the ship and alpha and omega. Alpha & Omega or Death & Life. No blast overlapping everything like a true big bang would.

If the Surfer was like this in front of the big bang blast I would take your word but there was nothing like this in the entire series.

Time travel shananigans caused them to jump the big bang one time and the galan's ship protected them the 2nd time. Never got hit with the blast of the Big bang like thanos is getting hit with from Odin.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Yup agreed, they were traveling through time and jumped over it. Not normal space so wouldn't have been impacted by the big bang. Time travel crap.

And on galan's ship they were ahead and racing away.

This is why I don't think he tanked the big bang

Originally posted by Diesldude
No they are ahead of it. The panel before, prior to this one, you can see the distance clear between the ship and alpha and omega. Alpha & Omega or Death & Life. No blast overlapping everything like a true big bang would.

No, the panel before shows them ahead of the destruction of the previous universe.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
They were point blank of the explosion that birthed a new reality. They described the alphex/omgegron as containing "all potential matter and energy".
Ure saying they escaped that? The collision between Galactus's ship and the alphex/omegron caused the explosion or "big bang". Surfer held on to the ship during the explosion.
That's a stretch if you think they didnt experience something from the collision.

They showed the alphex/Omegron in the previous comic.

Two objects that were rushing together. They didn't crash into galan's ship. At least not in the 2 #13 or #14 of the series that I've read. I'm keeping an open mind but I don't think power cosmic at least the amount the surfer has is able to withstand the big bang. There is nothing in the comic suggesting he was in any danger as long as he got to the ship.

Originally posted by Diesldude
They showed the alphex/Omegron in the previous comic.

Two objects that were rushing together. They didn't crash into galan's ship. At least not in the 2 #13 or #14 of the series that I've read. I'm keeping an open mind but I don't think power cosmic at least the amount the surfer has is able to withstand the big bang. There is nothing in the comic suggesting he was in any danger as long as he got to the ship.

Its the type of feat that doesnt make sense based on power level. Only battleboard nerds would make a thing out of it.