Darth Sidious vs Sephiroth

Started by KingD197 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't know anywhere in the movie where that information about the blasters are given.

In Phathom Menace we get to see how fast force users really are. A couple of times the movie show them blitzing and becoming blur in real time.

Also a human can react in 0.2 second. If both crossed a skyscraper in a few seconds then that's not fast enough for a human not to be able to react (from battle distance).

It doesn't need to be stated in a movie for it to have canon sources. You're being intentionally dense to act like it does. But it's you so I'm not surprised.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
^blithering idiot, Sepheroth isn’t at human levels your MORON.

Sepheroth can fly and has his own to which is vastly superior to Sheev

I didn't say Seph wasn't as fast as a human. I was proving that a human can react to superhuman level speeds. For example, a professional baseball player can EASILY catch a 100mph baseball from 30ft away. Or in other words, react to something going 500mph from 150ft away. If force masters have reflexes beyond a human's then Sid can easily react to a charge from Seph.

Originally posted by KingD19
It doesn't need to be stated in a movie for it to have canon sources. You're being intentionally dense to act like it does. But it's you so I'm not surprised.
How can a source be canon if it's not from the movie or books? Was the source straight from the creator or writer of the films?

Official source books, guides, and even canon books that tie-in are a thing. Its how they expand on things they don't have time to fully explain in movies and shows. You can't be this dumb, can you?

Remember when they went to Bespin? Han says it was a Tibanna gas mine Lando won off some guy. And guess what is used to make blaster bolts? Tibanna Gas.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Blaster_gas/Legends - tons of sources you can go look up whole you continue your ignorance.

But again blaster bolts are not lightspeed, especially since normal people react to them all the time. Just not as good as Force Users.

Originally posted by KingD19
Official source books, guides, and even canon books that tie-in are a thing. Its how they expand on things they don't have time to fully explain in movies and shows. You can't be this dumb, can you?

Remember when they went to Bespin? Han says it was a Tibanna gas mine Lando won off some guy. And guess what is used to make blaster bolts? Tibanna Gas.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Blaster_gas/Legends - tons of sources you can go look up whole you continue your ignorance.

But again blaster bolts are not lightspeed, especially since normal people react to them all the time. Just not as good as Force Users.

Yes, yes he can be this dumb. He’s the village idiot of the forum.

Sephiroth is too much for Sheev. Anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant.

Originally posted by KingD19
Official source books, guides, and even canon books that tie-in are a thing. Its how they expand on things they don't have time to fully explain in movies and shows. You can't be this dumb, can you?

Remember when they went to Bespin? Han says it was a Tibanna gas mine Lando won off some guy. And guess what is used to make blaster bolts? Tibanna Gas.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Blaster_gas/Legends - tons of sources you can go look up whole you continue your ignorance.

But again blaster bolts are not lightspeed, especially since normal people react to them all the time. Just not as good as Force Users.

Again, How can a source be canon if it's not from the movie or books? Was the source straight from the creator or writer of the films?
You never answered either question.

Did the writer/creator of the blaster write that information on that site? Did a fan write it? Who wrote it? What are their credentials? Did they collaborate with the original writer? Or did they make shit up?

It's from the spin-off books. Now whether that's relevant in movie-only verse debates I don't really care. For what it's worth, the script refers to them as "lasers" and "laser bolts".

Cool. Let's go by that logic and say they are lasers, and not the plasma bolts they are explained as. Let's say they are near or at lightspeed.

Now h1 could you explain to me how Han Solo, Countless Clone Troopers, Rebel Soldiers, Bounty Hunters, droids, children, etc, etc, etc, etc... are all faster than lightspeed in their reaction times? Because tons of normal people dodge and react to blaster bolts all the time. But how is that possible if they're so fast? Is the entire SWverse FTL? I'll wait for a response.

And I'm not going through each individual source, but plenty of source books and official guides had to be canon-checked by Lucas back in the day and Disney now.

Originally posted by h1a8
Again, How can a source be canon if it's not from the movie or books? Was the source straight from the creator or writer of the films?
You never answered either question.

Did the writer/creator of the blaster write that information on that site? Did a fan write it? Who wrote it? What are their credentials? Did they collaborate with the original writer? Or did they make shit up?

Going by your own logic, thor would have ftl reflexes since he blocked Chitari lasers

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Going by your own logic, thor would have ftl reflexes since he blocked Chitari lasers
Those didn't look like lasers.

Originally posted by KingD19
Cool. Let's go by that logic and say they are lasers, and not the plasma bolts they are explained as. Let's say they are near or at lightspeed.

Now h1 could you explain to me how Han Solo, Countless Clone Troopers, Rebel Soldiers, Bounty Hunters, droids, children, etc, etc, etc, etc... are all faster than lightspeed in their reaction times? Because tons of normal people dodge and react to blaster bolts all the time. But how is that possible if they're so fast? Is the entire SWverse FTL? I'll wait for a response.

And I'm not going through each individual source, but plenty of source books and official guides had to be canon-checked by Lucas back in the day and Disney now.

Aim dodging. Unless you can show me them reacting AFTER the laser fired.

So apparently everyone who has ever dodged a blaster is capable of aim dodging lightsoeed projectiles? That's your explanation?

Originally posted by KingD19
Cool. Let's go by that logic and say they are lasers, and not the plasma bolts they are explained as. Let's say they are near or at lightspeed.

Now h1 could you explain to me how Han Solo, Countless Clone Troopers, Rebel Soldiers, Bounty Hunters, droids, children, etc, etc, etc, etc... are all faster than lightspeed in their reaction times? Because tons of normal people dodge and react to blaster bolts all the time. But how is that possible if they're so fast? Is the entire SWverse FTL? I'll wait for a response.

And I'm not going through each individual source, but plenty of source books and official guides had to be canon-checked by Lucas back in the day and Disney now.

Lucas didn't review that stuff. In fact, he's even distanced himself from the EU and said it's an entirely different "world".

And, yeah, H1 is right. It's aim dodging. This is true even if they aren't lasers but plasma.

Sephiroth sucks as a villain! There I said it.

Now Kefka was a true bastard, so was the Emperor, so was Kuja.

Now most powerful, is still Ultimecia, who would made all other FF shits there pants, and yet there undies on how broken she truly was.

Originally posted by SquallX
Sephiroth sucks as a villain! There I said it.

Now Kefka was a true bastard, so was the Emperor, so was Kuja.

Now most powerful, is still Ultimecia, who would made all other FF shits there pants, and yet there undies on how broken she truly was.

I can appreciate all of those villain. Kefka and Kuja are definitely amazing characters in their own right. IMO, Sephiroth is definitely as well fleshed out and is hands down THE most iconic FF villain.

Originally posted by KingD19
So apparently everyone who has ever dodged a blaster is capable of aim dodging lightsoeed projectiles? That's your explanation?

Dodging requires reacting and moving AFTER the fire. You made the claim, so the onus is on you to prove these individuals actually dodged laser fire.

Originally posted by SquallX
Sephiroth sucks as a villain! There I said it.

Now Kefka was a true bastard, so was the Emperor, so was Kuja.

Now most powerful, is still Ultimecia, who would made all other FF shits there pants, and yet there undies on how broken she truly was.

Because he’s not a villain

He’s literally an angel

Originally posted by Eon Blue
I can appreciate all of those villain. Kefka and Kuja are definitely amazing characters in their own right. IMO, Sephiroth is definitely as well fleshed out and is hands down THE most iconic FF villain.

Sephiroth is more famous due to his looks and long sword. In the end he is not more flesh out when you compares him to the likes of Kefka, Golbez, Kuja, or Jecht.

-Kefka was the villain to hate, but still love for his craziness.
-Golbez, you felt sorry for him
-Kuja, you love and hated him, but in the end you resonate with him for the hand life dealt him.
-Jecht, at the beginning you thought nothing of him, but as you gather the spheres he left around Spira, then his struggles to end his life, you grew to love.

Sephiroth was just a mommy’s boy, whose whole goal was misplaced when he killed the last of the Ancients.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Because he’s not a villain

Sephiroth was indeed the villain.

The one that falls in that category is Jecht, in the sense of doing evil without wanting too.

He was an eco terrorist and wanted to destroy the reasons he was made in the first place