Originally posted by Galan007
In canon, Luke's lightsaber skill was equal to Vader's as of RotJ:
"Father and son were now equally strong with the Force, and equally skilled with their lightsabers."
-Jedi vs. Sith (2016)Though you could [rightly] argue that Luke's skills had increased significantly by the time he began training Kylo, but that's neither here nor there...
Imo, the VD is clearly using Luke and Vader as a measuring stick/comparison for Kylo's skill, hence "much like". Does that mean Kylo is *as* skilled as they were? No. But I do think the intent is that he is at least in their tier, which would still put him pretty high up the totem pole.
Don't get me wrong, I understand the reluctance to accept Kylo as a Vader-level swordsman given his depictions in the films -- but even with that, most supplementary material tends to wank the bejesus out of his power/skill. In short: I think that's just the level Disney just wants him to be at. /shrug
Yeah we were not talking about ROTJ, but peak versions presumably. And if Luke reaches Vaders level as a swordsman in only 4 years, then I see no reason to believe Vader is even close to peak Luke level.
The supplementary material can hyperbole wank Kylo all it wants, but without specifics I will go by the movies which went out of their way to tell us Kylo was no Vader.
Also what is Saber skill? Maul had mad saber skills but would get his ass whooped by Vader. So without equal force augmentation it wouldnt matter.