Joe Biden says you are not black if you vote for Trump,

Originally posted by Surtur
I'll step back from Biden and ask what the dems have done for blacks?

Oh and I will indeed allow someone to bring up the civil rights act. Cuz if you gotta reach back decades to find an example I want that displayed for all to see.

What ways have the dems improved black communities?

How is this any different than your question about Biden? You just shifted the question from the candidate to the party. Ask the same question, do not expect a different answer.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Nobody is asking for a perfect candidate , just one that doesn't require voting for the lesser of two evils.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If you are outside the party, the party has no incentive to change for you. Funny how that works.

Unless, of course, that party is faced with the current reality that they are losing voters to their opposition like the Democrats are facing, now.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If you are outside the party, the party has no incentive to change for you. Funny how that works.

If you're a mindless drone, the party has no incentive to change.

You sound like a battered spouse " if I just keep blindly supporting them, maybe they'll stop beating me"

🙁 Trump

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you're a mindless drone, the party has no incentive to change.

You sound like a battered spouse " if I just keep blindly supporting them, maybe they'll stop beating me"

Cool story. How is voting third party working out for you? What has any third party you have voted for accomplished for you? What policy concessions has voting third party gotten you from either of the major parties?

What has voting for the lesser of two evils gotten you?

Originally posted by Silent Master
What has voting for the lesser of two evils gotten you?

Plenty. I will be happy to answer your question in more detail as soon as you answer mine.

I didn't vote 3rd party, I was a Bernie supporter.

Now, answer mine.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I didn't vote 3rd party, I was a Bernie supporter.

Now, answer mine.

That's a bit of a cop out. Bernie didn't run in the general election and he didn't run for the house in the midterms either. So the question how you voted, and whether you are happy with the vote and feel the party or person you chose is representing you well, or if they lost, whether you are still happy with your vote is more relevant.

I don't know how you felt about Clinton, but perhaps that is a good example that mirrors what we are talking about for black voters who are left behind by the Democratic Party. If you are willing to share, did you vote for Clinton or Trump? Or perhaps voted third party, did a write in or chose not to vote in that election? And do you feel like your choice has worked out for your interests?

His question was how is voting third-party working out for me,

I didn't vote for anyone in the general election, because there weren't any good choices

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Why do you care? You are not black, and you do not have any regard for the rights or well-being of black people, so what would that knoweldge illuminate for you, other than being a weak troll-baiting attempt?

Being Black has no bearings to his question. The fact that you had to twist his question around, proves how disloyal you really are.

Not voting is effectively a vote for the other guy.

Just saying. Totally support your right to abstain.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you're a mindless drone, the party has no incentive to change.

You sound like a battered spouse " if I just keep blindly supporting them, maybe they'll stop beating me"

👆

If you have to stop Hitler getting into power then fair enough on voting the lesser of two evils.

But if you insist on doing that every election then you are part of the problem IMO. The problem being a 2 party choice, both sides backed by massive media outlets.

Originally posted by Silent Master
His question was how is voting third-party working out for me,

I didn't vote for anyone in the general election, because there weren't any good choices

This I can agree with. I should not have voted for Johnson. I should have voted for Jill Stein as I later found out from Robtard she better represented my positions than Johnson.

Originally posted by Artol
That's a bit of a cop out. Bernie didn't run in the general election and he didn't run for the house in the midterms either. So the question how you voted, and whether you are happy with the vote and feel the party or person you chose is representing you well, or if they lost, whether you are still happy with your vote is more relevant.

I don't know how you felt about Clinton, but perhaps that is a good example that mirrors what we are talking about for black voters who are left behind by the Democratic Party. If you are willing to share, did you vote for Clinton or Trump? Or perhaps voted third party, did a write in or chose not to vote in that election? And do you feel like your choice has worked out for your interests?

It is a total cop out, because the underlying question is about how his strategy of disengagement is advancing his policy goals. His argument is that the most effective way to get policy concessions from a major party is to not engage with the party, and I want to see evidence of that.

Originally posted by SquallX
Being Black has no bearings to his question. The fact that you had to twist his question around, proves how disloyal you really are.

If he asked a serious question, then he would get a serious answer. But he is not interested in the answer to the question, only in wasting my time in asking me to answer it. It is a time-waster troll question, and I am not going to entertain it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
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If you have to stop Hitler getting into power then fair enough on voting the lesser of two evils.

But if you insist on doing that every election then you are part of the problem IMO. The problem being a 2 party choice, both sides backed by massive media outlets.

If your thresh hold for preventing harmful actors from holding a position of power is genocide, then you are part of the problem.

On the other hand, if you believe that one has a moral duty to vote for Biden, is that the cut off for you? Does someone have a moral duty to canvass for him or to donate significant amounts of money to his campaign?

Originally posted by Artol
On the other hand, if you believe that one has a moral duty to vote for Biden, is that the cut off for you? Does someone have a moral duty to canvass for him or to donate significant amounts of money to his campaign?

At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is votes.