Originally posted by carthage
https://www.fox9.com/news/officers-evacuated-as-rioters-set-minneapolis-police-precinct-on-fireBecause this is totally justified? Lmao
Whatever you feel to justify the crimes of looters and criminals
Who justified it?
I suggest you Try watching the murder video and demanding justice for that crime instead instead of shifting focus to this.
Thats if you actually have a shred of humanity in you.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
It’s a proven fact that white police officers kill more unarmed white people than armed and unarmed black men added together.Proven fact, undeniable
Of coarse this will fall on with deaf ears because this cop killed this poor man and now all white people are racist.
This is not a sound argument (although it may be rhetorically effective on many). In absolute numbers there are more white people killed by police, but there's many more white people in America. Black people are killed at a much, much higher rate than their share of the population.
If you want to make an argument that it is not about race the following is better. "It's not because of race that black people are killed by police, but because of class, black people being on average much poorer than white people, and poor people of all races being much more likely to be killed by police". It would still not be absolutely correct, race does play a factor in these killings, but it would be much closer to the truth, and a sound argument.
Originally posted by Artol
This is not a sound argument (although it may be rhetorically effective on many). In absolute numbers there are more white people killed by police, but there's many more white people in America. Black people are killed at a much, much higher rate than their share of the population.If you want to make an argument that it is not about race the following is better. "It's not because of race that black people are killed by police, but because of class, black people being on average much poorer than white people, and poor people of all races being much more likely to be killed by police". It would still not be absolutely correct, race does play a factor in these killings, but it would be much closer to the truth, and a sound argument.
Nothing here refutes what I said. Go look up the study
Originally posted by Darth Thor
That black man has a name.And of course no one wants riots, and neither are they justified. But unfortunately youre in a situation where riots are the only way this issue will be taken seriously enough.
Of course he has a name. Maybe if the media hadn't been constantly trying to cause racial division by constanly talking about how "yet another black man was killed by white cops!" and instead mentioned his name when the story first broke then I might've known it.
You see, in case you didn't know, everytime a black person is killed by a white cop in the US the media, if they're made aware of it, will plaster the story all over the place because their obsessed with creating racial division in this country. If they weren't so obsessed with it then they would also do the same thing when a white person is killed by cops (which actually happens more, in case you didn't know).
It's important for them to create this BS narrative that all white cops are racist and have this sick agenda to kill black people. It's a lie, and people like myself are sick of hearing their lies. So, whenever I hear of yet another story "proving" that "white cops are racist!" I tune it out and don't really pay attention to it anymore when I see it on tv or anywhere else.
Again, looting and rioting to "get people to take it seriously enough" is not how the law works. You seem to think that if the police in question in this case are not immediately, say... executed, perhaps... then they are "getting away with it" and so the looting and rioting will make everyone see how wrong it is lol.
Like I said, I'm pretty sure at least one of them will eventually be charged with something.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Nothing here refutes what I said. Go look up the study
Yes, what you said is technically correct, it is not relevant to the question of whether black people are excessively targeted by police though.
Or to put it in terms of this killing, it does not tell us how likely a white person would be to be killed in such a callous manner as George Floyd, as it says nothing about the intentions and quality of the particular killings by police.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Of course he has a name. Maybe if the media hadn't been constantly trying to cause racial division by constanly talking about how "yet another black man was killed by white cops!" and instead mentioned his name when the story first broke then I might've known it.You see, in case you didn't know, everytime a black person is killed by a white cop in the US the media, if they're made aware of it, will plaster the story all over the place because their obsessed with creating racial division in this country. If they weren't so obsessed with it then they would also do the same thing when a white person is killed by cops (which actually happens more, in case you didn't know).
It's important for them to create this BS narrative that all white cops are racist and have this sick agenda to kill black people. It's a lie, and people like myself are sick of hearing their lies. So, whenever I hear of yet another story "proving" that "white cops are racist!" I tune it out and don't really pay attention to it anymore when I see it on tv or anywhere else.
Again, looting and rioting to "get people to take it seriously enough" is not how the law works. You seem to think that if the police in question in this case are not immediately, say... executed, perhaps... then they are "getting away with it" and so the looting and rioting will make everyone see how wrong it is lol.
Like I said, I'm pretty sure at least one of them will eventually be charged with something.
Didnt claim thats how the law works. I said its Unfortunate thats what it takes for the issue to be taken seriously enough.
Yeah they probably will be charged with Something.
I wouldn't underestimate looting and rioting as an effective tool of political behavior, particularly of the oppressed and the disenfranchised by the way.
I think if we remove it from our direct circumstances we can all agree that looting and rioting are valid in certain contexts. The Tiananmen Square Protests, the Arab Spring, the resistance to Vichy France and for many Americans the riots and looting of the American revolutionaries against the British colonial regime (Boston Tea Party, for example) are all situations that we can look at in more nuanced ways, I believe.