Is America waking up from a bad dream?

The last few years for a foreigner looking in I have seen "Trouble in America". America, always placed "Freedom" at the centre of it's self belief. The united states and Canada were based on the idea everyone was equal, regardless of colour or creed. The spiral of self doubt from 911 twenty years ago led to a "war on terror", based around a lie and led to the first black President who served two terms. Much of Obama's policies were based on globalisation, tolerance and basic standards for all. Russia interfered with the last election and the "self styled, self made", tv personality, "Billionaire" and ladies man Donald Trump was voted in. America went from a global beacon under Obama to what we see now, a country where the military are now being used on a section of it's own population. Remember Trump did not win the popular vote, but he may have tried to steal the nations soul. Now we see brave citizens vilified for standing up for American values and I think, I detect a sense of shame in the Trumper rhetoric, like there Emperor whose suit of armour has been shown to be nonexistent, they too are retiring to a bunker. Some though I think over the coming months will start to say, "Sorry".

disagree with that last part. when this shitshow is all over, nobody will admit that they supported it. just try to find a single republican who'll admit "yeah, I voted for dubya". and he was magnanimous in comparison. just look at the poll asking our political persuasion with zero republicans. intellectual dishonesty and constant political self-identity reboots

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
disagree with that last part. when this shitshow is all over, nobody will admit that they supported it. just try to find a single republican who'll admit "yeah, I voted for dubya". and he was magnanimous in comparison. just look at the poll asking our political persuasion with zero republicans. intellectual dishonesty and constant political self-identity reboots

I was only addressing this part:

'Some though I think over the coming months will start to say, "Sorry".

most of them have always evaded the fact that they're trump supporters. evasive shadow-defending and gaslighting, but never "yeah I support/vote trump"

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I was only addressing this part:

'Some though I think over the coming months will start to say, "Sorry".

most of them have always evaded the fact that they're trump supporters. evasive shadow-defending and gaslighting, but never "yeah I support/vote trump"

We woke up from it in November of 2016

Originally posted by Surtur
We woke up from it in November of 2016

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I know mate, but do you think they have started to acknowledge who they have been allowing to set policy and what they have gone along with?

I believe that when a person tells themselves the same "I don't even support trump, but..." lie enough times, they believe that lie.

Are the out-of-the-closet trump supporters acknowledging? only the ones who were duped into the cult, and did not knowingly join a fascist movement...i mean alt-right movement...i mean white nationalist movement...I mean ethno-state movement...I mean "preserve western culture" movement...I mean...you know what I mean 😉

Originally posted by Surtur
We woke up from it in November of 2016

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I believe that when a person tells themselves the same "I don't even support trump, but..." lie enough times, they believe that lie.

Are the out-of-the-closet trump supporters acknowledging? only the ones who were duped into the cult, and did not knowingly join a fascist movement...i mean alt-right movement...i mean white nationalist movement...I mean ethno-state movement...I mean "preserve western culture" movement...I mean...you know what I mean 😉

Whirly can you cut this shit out and find something else to do?

Your not American and you live in Africa, why don’t you go dove Africa’s problems, then Britain’s, then when you fixed those, come help us.

*fixed

I don't think there's much different now than a decade ago. The same issues. The same reactions to those issues. The same denials that the issues exist by people not affected by those issues. The same virtue signalling followed by inaction from both political poles. Round and round she goes. Where she stops, well she doesn't stop.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I believe that when a person tells themselves the same "I don't even support trump, but..." lie enough times, they believe that lie.

Are the out-of-the-closet trump supporters acknowledging? only the ones who were duped into the cult, and did not knowingly join a fascist movement...i mean alt-right movement...i mean white nationalist movement...I mean ethno-state movement...I mean "preserve western culture" movement...I mean...you know what I mean 😉

I think you're genuinely not an intelligent person, and that usually anyone who agrees with what you say has a diminished mental capacity.

Surt, do the line again where you say you don't want Trump to win in 2020 and that you're not voting for him again. It'll be funny.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I believe that when a person tells themselves the same "I don't even support trump, but..." lie enough times, they believe that lie.

See religious conservatives, so-called Independents who only vote for conservatives, and party loyalists.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Are the out-of-the-closet trump supporters acknowledging? only the ones who were duped into the cult, and did not knowingly join a fascist movement...i mean alt-right movement...i mean white nationalist movement...I mean ethno-state movement...I mean "preserve western culture" movement...I mean...you know what I mean 😉

See trailer parks, mobility scooters, and those once removed.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
The last few years for a foreigner looking in I have seen "Trouble in America". America, always placed "Freedom" at the centre of it's self belief. The united states and Canada were based on the idea everyone was equal, regardless of colour or creed. The spiral of self doubt from 911 twenty years ago led to a "war on terror", based around a lie and led to the first black President who served two terms. Much of Obama's policies were based on globalisation, tolerance and basic standards for all. Russia interfered with the last election and the "self styled, self made", tv personality, "Billionaire" and ladies man Donald Trump was voted in. America went from a global beacon under Obama to what we see now, a country where the military are now being used on a section of it's own population. Remember Trump did not win the popular vote, but he may have tried to steal the nations soul. Now we see brave citizens vilified for standing up for American values and I think, I detect a sense of shame in the Trumper rhetoric, like there Emperor whose suit of armour has been shown to be nonexistent, they too are retiring to a bunker. Some though I think over the coming months will start to say, "Sorry".

I'd say very few will, the rest will just pretend they didn't or make silly excuses like "we had no choice!", but Robtard is here to gracefully accept their apologies and I won't even smugly say "I told you so", I will just think it.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Whirly can you cut this shit out and find something else to do?

Your not American and you live in Africa, why don’t you go dove Africa’s problems, then Britain’s, then when you fixed those, come help us.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I don't think there's much different now than a decade ago. The same issues. The same reactions to those issues. The same denials that the issues exist by people not affected by those issues. The same virtue signalling followed by inaction from both political poles. Round and round she goes. Where she stops, well she doesn't stop.

Originally posted by Robtard
Surt, do the line again where you say you don't want Trump to win in 2020 and that you're not voting for him again. It'll be funny.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I'm an Internationalist paid in dollars with a daughter with American citizenship. I'm going to disagree, I think America under Obama was a very different animal. never gets old 😆

So I’m guessing you have or have not read Fared Zakka’s post America World?

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
So I’m guessing you have or have not read Fared Zakka’s post America World?

Fared Zakka, Fared Zakka

Dormez vous? Dormez vous?

Sonnez les matines, Sonnez les matines

Din din don, Din din don

Originally posted by Robtard
I'd say very few will, the rest will just pretend they didn't or make silly excuses like "we had no choice!", but Robtard is here to gracefully accept their apologies and I won't even smugly say "I told you so", I will just think it.