Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Of course... just like everything that's went wrong in the last 3 years are also Obama's fault 😉
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Not at all, What went wrong in the last three years?You mean like the “Russian conspiracy” that hundreds of millions if not billions of people bought into that was decades by Robert Mueller the White Knight himself who found literally nothing?
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
The last few years for a foreigner looking in I have seen "Trouble in America". America, always placed "Freedom" at the centre of it's self belief. The united states and Canada were based on the idea everyone was equal, regardless of colour or creed. The spiral of self doubt from 911 twenty years ago led to a "war on terror", based around a lie and led to the first black President who served two terms. Much of Obama's policies were based on globalisation, tolerance and basic standards for all. Russia interfered with the last election and the "self styled, self made", tv personality, "Billionaire" and ladies man Donald Trump was voted in. America went from a global beacon under Obama to what we see now, a country where the military are now being used on a section of it's own population. Remember Trump did not win the popular vote, but he may have tried to steal the nations soul. Now we see brave citizens vilified for standing up for American values and I think, I detect a sense of shame in the Trumper rhetoric, like there Emperor whose suit of armour has been shown to be nonexistent, they too are retiring to a bunker. Some though I think over the coming months will start to say, "Sorry".
I don't think so, I think Trump supporters will continue, tbh, I think Trump has fundamentally changed the Republican party. Not for the worse, necessarily, more a sideway step into a different pile of shit, I guess.
Originally posted by ArtolWhat about never Trumpers, will they impact on the GOP in your opinion mate?
I don't think so, I think Trump supporters will continue, tbh, I think Trump has fundamentally changed the Republican party. Not for the worse, necessarily, more a sideway step into a different pile of shit, I guess.
No, I mean, seriously, who are the Never-Trumpers that have any standing in the Republican party? They either ****ed off like Boehner and Ryan, bent the knee like Graham, Romney (and even Ted Cruz) or never criticize him, and completely in line with everything he says like Meghan McCain (although she isn't a functionary of the party anyways).
I'm aware of these people, but they are very fringe, and I don't see them taking over the Republican party anytime soon. Trump is incredibly popular among Republicans, something like 92%...I'm also not sure that it would be waking out of a bad dream to reality, probably more like waking from a bad dream to another bad dream, a bit like the eternal waking cures in The Sandman.
Originally posted by ArtolThis is true, but if he cant access swing voters, he is fooked and tbh, whilst his support is high in his own party his ability to access the swing is questionable.
I'm aware of these people, but they are very fringe, and I don't see them taking over the Republican party anytime soon. Trump is incredibly popular among Republicans, something like 92%...I'm also not sure that it would be waking out of a bad dream to reality, probably more like waking from a bad dream to another bad dream, a bit like the eternal waking cures in The Sandman.
Originally posted by ArtolBiden is shit to be sure, nut Biden is less shit that Trump. When you are forced to eat shit I would suggest as little as possible. Trump is the Happy meal of shit, the Royale with cheese of excrement even.
Sure, but then we have what? President Biden, and he continues all neo-liberal policies, and we are in a very similar situation, just that there isn't even an opposition to it...
Originally posted by Artolthis is an interesting one, we will never know if Trump is as bad as Bush, his pressures are different. Trump certainly has stoked more internal division and possibly legitimized intolerance world wide for many. He also inherited a recovering economy already in the upswing.
Maybe. I agree in principle. But it's hard to see the long term consequences. Trump is bad for sure, but he's certainly not as bad as George W. Bush, for example. And his general buffoonery might hasten the fall of the American empire, which might be a positive for the world...
Originally posted by Artol
Who are these never-trumpers? As far as I can tell the vast majority of Republicans has fallen in line, tacitly or outright.
Never-Trumpers is more or less a coping group of Republicans (and people pretending to be Republicans) who got really sad when Trump won in 2016.
They are a much smaller group than the Black-Exit group (Blexit) that is exiting the Democratic Party due to decades of subversively racist policies and actions from the Dems.
Originally posted by dadudemonbox did a really interesting video on how the two parties have changed. I really think you should watch it DDM. 😉
Never-Trumpers is more or less a coping group of Republicans (and people pretending to be Republicans) who got really sad when Trump won in 2016.They are a much smaller group than the Black-Exit group (Blexit) that is exiting the Democratic Party due to decades of subversively racist policies and actions from the Dems.