Are SJW winning...or are real injustices being addressed/corrected?

Originally posted by SquallX
Of course there’s racism! It’s because people are stupid. One is not borne racist, it is thought to us. Racism will never go away for the simple fact is this, every time we try to move forward, white liberals brings it up.

Like Morgan Freeman says, the best way to beat racism in this day and age is to stop talking about it. Just like when the interviewer ask him about black history and says it’s stupid. He ask the interviewer how many months is his white history. The interviewer claims he was Jewish. Morgan pushes him ask him why not? And he claimed he did not want just a mere month.

As for your wife, I’m sorry she was met with such scums, but It does not mean inequality is structural in this country. It is individuals.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Whilst you have your opinion and it is yours, my wife says structural inequality, discrimination and racism is a problem in the US and she has experienced it there first hand. This comes from a woman who has a masters degree so is far from stupid or lazy.

This is a hard story to buy and I have lived in the USA my entire life now in the middle of the bible belt, I certainly can't explain what she fills but the story you built around your wife is one that is african, literally from africa so it makes a dodgey story.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/16/gypsy-travellers-discrimination-stigma-poster-campaign

Originally posted by snowdragon
This is a hard story to buy and I have lived in the USA my entire life now in the middle of the bible belt, I certainly can't explain what she fills but the story you built around your wife is one that is african, literally from africa so it makes a dodgey story.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Class is always a factor, as is culture, but so is race. It is a combination and each person lives a different life. You can't work, not because you are lazy or stupid but because of circumstance. Many things conspire against people and weigh heavy alone or in combination. If you are poorly educated and white, you still are less likely to be killed if you have an interaction with the Police than a black man of the same socioeconomic demographic.

It's almost like there's a privilege of sorts in play?

Originally posted by Robtard
It's almost like there's a privilege of sorts in play?

Originally posted by Robtard
It's almost like there's a privilege of sorts in play?

Yeah, a class privilege. Glad you recognized it too 👆

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
ahh but she visits family in Wisconsin and Houston Texas regularly and has her whole life. She spent almost 4 months there recently.

So explain the racism, it's always a battle asking for data to show racism........but I saw it so its systemic............

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah, a class privilege. Glad you recognized it too 👆

You didn't comprehend what Whirl's said then. That's your failing.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah, a class privilege. Glad you recognized it too 👆

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Class is always a factor, as is culture, but so is race. It is a combination and each person lives a different life. You can't work, not because you are lazy or stupid but because of circumstance. Many things conspire against people and weigh heavy alone or in combination. If you are poorly educated and white, you still are less likely to be killed if you have an interaction with the Police than a black man of the same socioeconomic demographic.

Yup. This is correct.

Despite me being born into very poor circumstances, doing extremely well in school through all levels, and working hard and smart for years, my circumstances have kept me down.

If I was born into a wealthy family that had the money to invest in a start-up software company, I would be a billionaire, obviously. But because of my white dis-privilege, and low-class birth, I have to settle for upper-middle class until I have enough capital to start my own software company in my mid 40s where I may be far too late to the market to actually make anything but paltry earnings because I'm 2 decades too late.

Originally posted by snowdragon
So explain the racism, it's always a battle asking for data to show racism........but I saw it so its systemic............

To SquallX.....I know it's been all day, but here's my quick retort to your original response to this thread. I thank you for your patience...

The problem with your response is:

1) It doesn't address the subject I'm addressing.

2) It seems you only read the quote I posted with this, which was to emphasize how even one of the most conservative politicians in the US recognizes how police interaction is very biased. But you failed to click any of the links provided.

3) To suggest that being chocked to death is an unavoidable consequence of a person using a fake 20 dollar bill suggest you are demented.

4) To paint a broad picture of black men as being irresponsible shows you to be small minded and self loathing (if you are black) and lack any sense of empathy.

The subject I'm looking to address is simply are "whiners" starting to win or are real issues being addressed and corrected...Not talking about any one persons personal experience.

If you believe that there's no such thing as "systemic injustice" then I can understand why you responded the way you did otherwise I think you simply wanted to derail the conversation.

Originally posted by snowdragon
So explain the racism, it's always a battle asking for data to show racism........but I saw it so its systemic............

Or penal system and sentencing is both racist (and sexist). Black men are more likely to get a harsher sentence for the same/similar crime as opposed to a White man. Hispanics tend to fall somewhere in the middle, iirc.

Wealth does factor in too, but it's still slanted.

Just as males are compared to females.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
it is simplistic to take a single factor as the end of an equation, it is also simplistic to take a majority factor out of a sum and expect the correct result.

Neat, we can consider multiple factors, but the biggest factor is not race 👆

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
she had as a girl a number of incidents in both Wisconsin and Houston where she suffered unpleasant verbal abuse in predominantly wealthy white suburbs. Just one example.

WTF dude, all ancedotal and not systemic.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yup. This is correct.

Despite me being born into very poor circumstances, doing extremely well in school through all levels, and working hard and smart for years, my circumstances have kept me down.

If I was born into a wealthy family that had the money to invest in a start-up software company, I would be a billionaire, obviously. But because of my white dis-privilege, and low-class birth, I have to settle for upper-middle class until I have enough capital to start my own software company in my mid 40s where I may be far too late to the market to actually make anything but paltry earnings because I'm 2 decades too late.

Originally posted by Robtard
Or penal system and sentencing is both racist (and sexist). Black men are more likely to get a harsher sentence for the same/similar crime as opposed to a White man. Hispanics tend to fall somewhere in the middle, iirc.

Just as males are compared to females.

Far enough, kill the war on drugs then lets look at the numbers.

Originally posted by snowdragon
WTF dude, all ancedotal and not systemic.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Far enough, kill the war on drugs then lets look at the numbers.

While I agree and it would likely help some, it wouldn't get ride of the institutional racism.