Originally posted by Robtardexactly a black guy's word against a white woman...
Or penal system and sentencing is both racist (and sexist). Black men are more likely to get a harsher sentence for the same/similar crime as opposed to a White man. Hispanics tend to fall somewhere in the middle, iirc.Wealth does factor in too, but it's still slanted.
Just as males are compared to females.
Originally posted by Surtur
I agree our penal system needs improvement. For example men receive 63% longer sentences on average than women do for the same crime. It's wrong.
Funny how you'll openly acknowledge the gender disparity in sentencing(and there is one as I noted last page), but you won't with the racial disparity. It's almost like you're a bigot with an MRA agenda?
Originally posted by Robtard
Funny how you'll openly acknowledge the gender disparity in sentencing(and there is one as I noted last page), but you won't with the racial disparity. It's almost like you're a bigot with an MRA agenda?
^I'm gonna allow someone unintelligent to come agree 🙂
Can't wait to see the inferior soul who goes first.
Originally posted by snowdragon
Probably because racism is individual. Again show some numbers, I mean just facts not your feefee's.
Decent read with a bunch of graphs showing the differences in race vs sentening in regards to same and similar crimes.
https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2413&context=articles
Originally posted by Robtard
Funny how you'll openly acknowledge the gender disparity in sentencing(and there is one as I noted last page), but you won't with the racial disparity. It's almost like you're a bigot with an MRA agenda?
We (not you and I, the GDF) had this argument on KMC, before. I guess I could find some data.
Originally posted by SurturYeah they do, we all have stories of guys we know getting shafted in a divorce or custody case. I got off relatively lightly both times in comparison.That said trust me if you or I were accused of something we would have a better chance in a jury trial in the UK or US than a black guy regardless of similar histories.
I agree our penal system needs improvement. For example men receive 63% longer sentences on average than women do for the same crime. It's wrong.
Originally posted by tru-marvell
To SquallX.....I know it's been all day, but here's my quick retort to your original response to this thread. I thank you for your patience...The problem with your response is:
1) It doesn't address the subject I'm addressing.
2) It seems you only read the quote I posted with this, which was to emphasize how even one of the most conservative politicians in the US recognizes how police interaction is very biased. But you failed to click any of the links provided.
3) To suggest that being chocked to death is an unavoidable consequence of a person using a fake 20 dollar bill suggest you are demented.
4) To paint a broad picture of black men as being irresponsible shows you to be small minded and self loathing (if you are black) and lack any sense of empathy.
The subject I'm looking to address is simply are "whiners" starting to win or are real issues being addressed and corrected...Not talking about any one persons personal experience.
If you believe that there's no such thing as "systemic injustice" then I can understand why you responded the way you did otherwise I think you simply wanted to derail the conversation.
Like you said, I don’t believe there is systematic racism that is holding black people down, but there lack of responsibilities.
Like i said before, Thomas Sowell, Michael Jordan, Oprah and Barrack Obama missed the memo of systematic racism that should hold them back from prospering in this country.
Is there racism? Of course. But it is individual, not systematic holding us down. If it truly was systemic, why are actually Afrikaans in this country one of the most well off?
Again not the conversation I'm looking to have, nonetheless would you not agree the these two practices are in fact systemic injustice?
1. Redlining
2. GI bill not given to black veterans
I'd hate to have to explain how just these two practices has had great adverse effects to the black community.
And as someone sorta pointed out it was government programs which helped to devastate the black family. Again systemic-deliberate programs. Government assistance given to minorities required that the man/father/husband of the family be absent from the household. Families receiving assistance were not allowed to have a savings account. These coupled with many overt practices of denying qualified applicants employment has had generational impacts.
I could site how these things has impacted me personally as my father and two of his brothers along with my maternal uncles all served in the military and how to man they were denied the same benefits that their white counterparts received and were able to build generational wealth through simply owning a home in the early 50's and 60's.
I challenge you and anyone else to do a 2 hour study into the origin and early movement of the Black Panther Party
1.) america had a black president, let's not move the goal post here. Discrediting this discredits the civil rights movement, no one is claiming america is perfect, just that progress has been made.
2.) america was one of the first places in the world to legally make slavery illegal, as opposed to some African and middle eastern countries still practicing it.
3.) red lining is a problem, but so are f.b.i. crime statistics that show young black men's biggest threat when they step out of their door isnt cops it's other black men.
4.)if you control for racial outward appearance by comparing african americans to second generation people from the west indies i.e. jamaica, Barbados, etc. Youll find that on average they make 58% more than there african american counterparts.
5.) 1000 people a year are shot by police, the majority being white, while blacks are slightly disproportionately represented, however this is largely due to the fact blacks often live in urban areas, which are policed more, and have different behavior when driving and being pulled over.
6.) our country exploding in protest has always seemed like a farce when north korea exists. The average north korean is 3.8 inches shorter than his south korean counterpart due to malnutrition due to poor and corrupt centralized planning, they live in constant terror of actual repression from the government, which is simultaneously a cult of personality, meaning it dominates every waking second of every day.
It's simple....MANY black men who sought to purchase homes were denied these low interest loans, esp it they were looking to buy in any "new suburban areas"
BB you're the idiot for not simply doing a little research to verify a statement. I'm not Trump...I don't make statements which are veritably false and then expect/demand people to believe it.