Tommy Robinson left speechless after having Racism explained to him.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
When I say "everyone knew" it's not some speculative thing. The police and media were expecting it after those calls were made to defend the statues were made.

A few clashes against police, and mass clashes between whites and blacks on the street are very different things.

So if you wanna get involved in this debate and defend TR then which is it? Was he too dumb to believe the police and media on that. Or was that his intention?

Do you have any statements from the police stating that they expected the violence to be started by the people protecting the statues, rather than the ones illegally trying to pull them down?

Ok

I'm not defending anyone, I'm trying to look at things objectively.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
As you’ve done is freak out once your double standards get exposed.

Lmao I haven't at all.

And what double standards? Please tell. I don't think you understand the concept.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Because all you did is give a excuse basically sticking your fingers in your ears crying no,no, no.

Okay, let me get this straight. All it takes to prove you're not a racist now is have a picture taken with a black guy 😆

Throw all rhetoric and double standards and clear agendas out of the window. Just have a picture with a black guy, and that's it, can't be a racist.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Because it’s true, they are parts of the Quran extremists use as a tool for their actions. Just look inside English prisons have most have been radicalised. PM had a ***** fit and looked like a petulant child. They got him there to talk about the Quran ffs.

Of course there's parts of the Quran that extremists will use to justify their actions. What a ridiculous dumb reason to start waving a Quran around.

Doesn't quote from his phone. Doesn't even have the decency to use a English only translation of the Quran. What a hate filled pillock.

But hey he has muslim friends right?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Just look at the violence in America, of the videos of the 2 white teens getting stabbed n beat half to death over weekend about BLM. Hell the group stamping on one kids head said he was to blame for 400yrs of slavery.

Whose condoing any of that.

Everyone is condemning the riots. They are disgusting in fact.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Come back to me when TR or EDL start be heading people or blowing kids up. You’re a phucking idiot.

The point (which clearly flew past your head), is you can state facts all you want. Doesn't mean it's not a one sided propaganda video. The whole purpose of which (im guessing) was to justify him instigating the riots over the weekend.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
He has protested against police and been jailed for it. You expect him to protest for justice in America when he can’t get justice here lol. He was jailed for punching a man who gropes his 13 yr old daughter.

Urm his whole video is about the shit going on in America, but he doesn't want to speak out against injustices there. Interesting.

So the police office he headbutted in 2004 groped his daughter.

Quit being a TR apologist. The guy's a thug, plain and simple.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
You show these facts to disprove it then.

So you’re going with another excuse of self hating people. Your argument is piss poor. Like I says he flat out states about black and whites unite. So the work he does with all the Sikhs mean they are self hating lol.
Defending someone people are passionate about is now inciting racial hatred? They ain’t the ones damaging stuff again you’re excuse is laughable to justify it.

Already addressed. You don't just get to take a picture with a black guy and a muslim to prove you're not racist or don't have an agenda against muslim people.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
It’s not his fault the police don’t do their job simple as that. Did the BLM crew has to attacks the statues ? No, so it’s on their heads. So in your eyes don’t defend anything because ?

S the police won't do their jobs, so best for thugs like TR to intervene?

That's exactly what makes him a thug.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
It’s not moronic , it’s fact. Don’t ask for something your not prepared to allow others to do because you tar everyone with the same brush then cry equality and justice.

Youevproven wrong by the very fact that his mates are black and a lot of the EDL are. You mean the clashes brought on by both sides. One defending tributes to dead soldiers who fought for the freedom the protesters are abusing? Double standards again.

Oh this same old shit. That doesn't prove jack. The fact that you think it does shows how easily you are brainwashed.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
You flat out said he had nothing to say or care about GF dying when he did say it was wrong and the cops should be punished.

No I said Oh wow he condemned a brutal murder, amazing.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
You have no IQ, like you have no spine or pride. In your eyes you should only stand up for what you’re told to believe in and what the lefty fake want.

Oh please. You don't even have a job. I can tell by the speed at which you're replying.

Get a job, get a life, and fight for a worthy cause in the days of so much hate, instead of "White men have the right to be proud"

Originally posted by Silent Master
Do you have any statements from the police stating that they expected the violence to be started by the people protecting the statues, rather than the ones illegally trying to pull them down?

Ok

I'm not defending anyone, I'm trying to look at things objectively.

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/11/blm-organisers-call-off-london-event-to-prevent-clashes-with-far-right

We all knew what was coming. A far right guy like him Calling for the statues to be defended that weekend was only going to incite the problem.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh please. You don't even have a job. I can tell by the speed at which you're replying.

Get a job, get a life, and fight for a worthy cause in the days of so much hate, instead of "White men have the right to be proud"

Man, you don't like this guy.

Also, I work long hours. But I pass the time on here, watching videos, and reading. Especially on long calls/meetings where I'm facilitating convos but I'm not needed.

He could be like that. I've been on a testing call since 9AM CST. I've only had to speak a total of 10 minutes on this call. I've been doing other work (getting a Purchase Order properly created so all charges go to the right bucket so the Accounts Payable group doesn't cut my head off or reject invoices from any of the vendors I'm working with) and reading this KMC thread during times I am not needed.

Could be something like that?

I read the whole thing, but I must have missed the statement where the police stated they expected the violence to be started by those protecting the statues.

Could you provide the exact quote?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
And so the solution to that is for you to buy into HIS double standards. And his Propaganda?

You still haven't refuted Akala's rebuttal to him in the OP which is that HE is feeding the Media stereotypes.

IRONIC

Where did I say anything about rioters and why they are doing what they're doing?

You seem to be confusing the mass majority who are protesting peacefully in he name of BLM to the rioters. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

That would be like naming every white cop a violent racist. That would be the propaganda TR would be putting out there if he was black.

Yeah im sure if that was a white English girl who couldn't swim surrounded by black muslims girls, TR would have absolutely nothing to say.

Get outta here. You're only fooling yourself on who and what this guy is.

His is the agenda.

As is yours. You've already said you want to be able to march to say "Proud to be White" LMAO

Propaganda ! Is he making up all the violence and damage.

As I said from the star I had no issue with the OP. I pointed out viva the video, vast amounts of people claiming to be righteous and just are just full of shit fakers.

You’ve made out it’s ok for one set of people to do something but not another’s

Vast majority! Stop lying like a c*nt. it’s pretty much been hassle since day one,

You mean like all the protestors naming a whites as racist who need to be killed? Or now the BLM acting to try and defund the police ?

So you have proof of this then? And where is the BLM marching about it?

The only person fooled is you be the media and your guilt.

Your weak emotions aren’t fact.

Another lie , I said you can’t march claiming that not that I wanted that because of what you would be labelled. The funny thing is the whole BLM is about justice and equality for everyone...who they approve of.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I read the whole thing, but I must have missed the statement where the police stated they expected the violence to be started by those protecting the statues.

Could you provide the exact quote?

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'm okay with the fact stuff. I am just shocked that such a site exists for Tommy. I am jealous that he has such a hate-base. I want one, too.

I didn't think he was important enough to have a whole hate-site dedicated to him.

Conservapedia inspired Rational Wiki.

And who the heck read CP? Even Cons don't know the thing exists.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Lmao I haven't at all.

And what double standards? Please tell. I don't think you understand the concept.

Okay, let me get this straight. All it takes to prove you're not a racist now is have a picture taken with a black guy 😆

Throw all rhetoric and double standards and clear agendas out of the window. Just have a picture with a black guy, and that's it, can't be a racist.

Of course there's parts of the Quran that extremists will use to justify their actions. What a ridiculous dumb reason to start waving a Quran around.

Doesn't quote from his phone. Doesn't even have the decency to use a English only translation of the Quran. What a hate filled pillock.

But hey he has muslim friends right?

Whose condoing any of that.

Everyone is condemning the riots. They are disgusting in fact.

The point (which clearly flew past your head), is you can state facts all you want. Doesn't mean it's not a one sided propaganda video. The whole purpose of which (im guessing) was to justify him instigating the riots over the weekend.

Urm his whole video is about the shit going on in America, but he doesn't want to speak out against injustices there. Interesting.

So the police office he headbutted in 2004 groped his daughter.

Quit being a TR apologist. The guy's a thug, plain and simple.

Already addressed. You don't just get to take a picture with a black guy and a muslim to prove you're not racist or don't have an agenda against muslim people.

S the police won't do their jobs, so best for thugs like TR to intervene?

That's exactly what makes him a thug.

Oh this same old shit. That doesn't prove jack. The fact that you think it does shows how easily you are brainwashed.

No I said Oh wow he condemned a brutal murder, amazing.

Oh please. You don't even have a job. I can tell by the speed at which you're replying.

Get a job, get a life, and fight for a worthy cause in the days of so much hate, instead of "White men have the right to be proud"

Double standards of its ok to protest etc over something you feel is unjust and feel passionate about but not another.

A black guy , they are his mates from childhood you idiot. At least know what you’re trying to debate. Members of the EDL are black and shown burning the nazi flag together.

Are you thick PM asked for his reasoning and that what he gave.

Lmao you keep trying to use that as if it matters because of your feelings about him. Get over it boy.

Yeah he does but he isn’t fake and not prepared to point out double standards awarded to some and not others while screaming about equal right.

You by saying defending memorials because of the violence it leads to.

Did he force people to damage and vandalise memorials ? No, so trying to blame others for a reaction is weak

Another lie , the video shows stuff that’s happened in the uk.

Look if your not prepared to stand up for something don’t complain because have the balls to truly stand up instead of been fake.

You mean a heavy handed copper, the very same rioters are fighting with in the US. Double stand again.

It’s just shows how much of a piece of shit you really are if you think someone punchIng another grown man for groping your daughter is such a bad thing. Wonder why you think it’s ok a adult to grope a kid.

More excuses. Irony of you claiming brainwashed when you think one course of action is ok and another not when both are down to something the believe in.

He didn’t have to condemn it. He has no problem speaking his mind so he doesn’t have the need to plz clowns like you.

No you’re right I don’t have a job. I have two as I own 2 small businesses. As most from the comic book forum know who’s known me for years. With a great family with kids. Unlike you who won’t ever fight for anything because you’re a gutless fake liberal bandwagon dogooder who only acts like to impress others.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Again it was the job of the police.

It's not for you far rights to go stir shit up against BLM.

The Churchill statue is still there. And any vandalism repaired, so I don't know what your point is. Police were on alert for that already after what happened last week.

I guess you're all upset about the Edward Colston statue Lmao

So I’m far because I think it’s not ok to do shit to countless memorials dedicated to fallen soldiers of all races. Again for died for the sane freedom they are using against the memorials.

So it’s ok because it was repaired? It didn’t matter that there was another march that was going to target statues then.

I couldn’t give a shit about a slave trader statue. There is a huge difference between memorials/statues of people who fought and died for this very country and the people in it to be remembered by to a slave trader statue. If you can’t grasp that simple concept you’re either a complete retard or ignorant and a disgrace.

Originally posted by cdtm
Conservapedia inspired Rational Wiki.

And who the heck read CP? Even Cons don't know the thing exists.

Gaslighting left-wingers?

So 40 minutes into the video.

More nonsense hes spewing:

He claims no ones cares about knife crime in the U.K.
What planet is he on? Thats been the biggest crime concern here for a good while. A young Pakistani boy was stabbed and killed by other school boys just in my local community last year. And thats in a posh area. All private school kids as well.

Then Hes saying people should be after Anothony Joshua instead of him, because AJ called to boycott white businesses.
Now what AJ said is wrong, and does incite the whole black vs white narrative which needs to stop. But thats not worse than TR sending out troops to face off against BLM on the streets. If his point was just to condemn AJ and not let his celebrity status get in the way then That would be a fair one. But when he compares himself, claiming hes so much better than that, thats where he screws up.

Again hes going on about black on black killings. And again I will say to him and his supporters that Black Lives Matter, no matter who kills them. All Lives Matter.

He for one second acknowledges injustices against black people in America but then moves on, after literally one second.

He shows a post of one of the founders of BLM saying she prays to GOD that she doesnt cuss/kill white people on the protest. He interprets that as she wants to kill whites.

And of course he gets to the statues and rants about a leftist extremist group leaving their sign on the Churchill statue, and how they want to defund the police. Yeah neither the masses nor government are ever going to support that. Its just scare mongering to justify him sending his goons out to face off against BLM protestors.

So yeah A LOT wrong with what hes saying in the video. Despite him peppering his propaganda message with facts.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
So 40 minutes into the video.

More nonsense hes spewing:

He claims no ones cares about knife crime in the U.K.
What planet is he on? Thats been the biggest crime concern here for a good while. A young Pakistani boy was stabbed and killed by other school boys just in my local community last year. And thats in a posh area. All private school kids as well.

Then Hes saying people should be after Anothony Joshua instead of him, because AJ called to boycott white businesses.
Now what AJ said is wrong, and does incite the whole black vs white narrative which needs to stop. But thats not worse than TR sending out troops to face off against BLM on the streets. If his point was just to condemn AJ and not let his celebrity status get in the way then That would be a fair one. But when he compares himself, claiming hes so much better than that, thats where he screws up.

Again hes going on about black on black killings. And again I will say to him and his supporters that Black Lives Matter, no matter who kills them. All Lives Matter.

He for one second acknowledges injustices against black people in America but then moves on, after literally one second.

He shows a post of one of the founders of BLM saying she prays to GOD that she doesnt cuss/kill white people on the protest. He interprets that as she wants to kill whites.

And of course he gets to the statues and rants about a leftist extremist group leaving their sign on the Churchill statue, and how they want to defund the police. Yeah neither the masses nor government are ever going to support that. Its just scare mongering to justify him sending his goons out to face off against BLM protestors.

So yeah A LOT wrong with what hes saying in the video. Despite him peppering his propaganda message with facts.

He says why aren’t the people protesting and marching about it.

Not surprising you leave out the part about AJ calling black peoples the superior race and TR highlighting the media ignoring it and showing double standards because if a white boxer says that you know he’s loses his licence.

Troop to face BLM 😂 nobody forced them to attacks the statues plus the had no valid reason to damage war memorials other than all whites must be racist.

He’s highlighting the fact blacks killing blacks makes no news for the agenda driven media and people don’t protest about that.

Because the video is about the BLM protest not GF. You construct trying to weasel your way around stuff doesn’t work.

Your weak lefty stance is almost as weak as your spine. So the Official BLM website is lying then when it says about wanting to defund the police.

Simple question , so it’s ok to deface war memorials and wrong to defend them were the police failed ?

Do you want to add any more lies to your post fake boy cheerleader ?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wow. Crazy. Someone created an anti-Tommy site.

He DEFINITELY made people feel butthurt. That's crazy. I wish I was such an influential figure that I had an entire site dedicated to people being butthurt about me.

Kent Hovind has had hundreds of hate websites created about him lol. He brags and laughs about it too.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I read the whole thing, but I must have missed the statement where the police stated they expected the violence to be started by those protecting the statues.

Could you provide the exact quote?

Youre getting a bit irritating wanting exact wording for something the whole country was expecting to happen.

But here:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/black-lives-matter-protests-london-conditions-met-police-a4468026.html?amp

It talks about police expecting clashes between the far right and left.

The article mentions how the far right are there to protect monuments.

If you ask me for the quote where police say they expect clashes because the far right are there to protect monuments, then I will just have to slap you.

I assume you mean this statement ""Secondly, we do have information that people are intent on coming to cause violence and confrontation. Of course, we will do everything we can to prevent violence and disorder." I don't see where it states that they expect the violence to be started by the people protecting the statues.

Edit: i do note the very biased framing though, I wasn't aware that not wanting statues destroyed was a strictly far-right position.

Yeah, it's retarded to think that not wanting to destroy/take down statues like Winston Churchill automatically equates to being "far right". But, that's crazy leftists for you.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I assume you mean this statement ""Secondly, we do have information that people are intent on coming to cause violence and confrontation. Of course, we will do everything we can to prevent violence and disorder." I don't see where it states that they expect the violence to be started by the people protecting the statues.

Edit: i do note the very biased framing though, I wasn't aware that not wanting statues destroyed was a strictly far-right position.

That's pretty selective reading from you SM:

"Similar regulations applied to right-wing groups require them to assemble in Parliament Square and some parts of Whitehall and enforces the same curfew."

As for the biased framing, strange you say that it's a biased article when that's exactly what happened. Is it so difficult for you to just admit they were correct.

Well maybe this will help, having gotten to the end of TR's hour long video that Insane Titan posted, TM himself admits that's what the result of his call to defend the statues going to be. Which was his reaosn for not going and for regretting his emotional rant.

So again, who agrees with you that people had no idea there would be clashed between the people "defending" the statues and the black community?

The police were preparing for it, the media was saying it, and TM also admitted it.

And it's not like they were wrong... IT HAPPENED.

So exactly what are you still questioning and why?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, it's retarded to think that not wanting to destroy/take down statues like Winston Churchill automatically equates to being "far right". But, that's crazy leftists for you.

I get you're a bit slow. But that's exactly what happened.

It's funny only the far right went to defend the statues. Probably because most peaceful people realise it's not their job to defend them and didn't want unnecesary clashes with BLM.

You’re such a lying fake c*nt it’s laughable.
Most peaceful didnt defend the statues. You had off duty and vet soldiers protecting the statues too.

Your who stance is it was wrong to protect the memorials because of the violence. So people defending what they believe in is wrong. Yet on the other hand you think it’s ok for others to protest what they stand for ? The memorials wouldn’t of needed defending is BLM supporters didn’t attack them for a start.

I don’t expect someone like you who thinks it’s out of order to defend your child from a grown man Groping her. Says a lot at your attitude towards pedos.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
You’re whole reaction is that.

Another non-rebuttal. Which I've come to expect from you.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Double standards of its ok to protest etc over something you feel is unjust and feel passionate about but not another.

Give the example where I've shown double standards. Marching out as self proclaimed soldiers to defend statues from BLM is not a peaceful protest.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
A black guy , they are his mates from childhood you idiot. At least know what you’re trying to debate. Members of the EDL are black and shown burning the nazi flag together.

Yes I've got to that bit of the video now. Where he specifically focuses on the black guy. Seems he can only be mates with black people if they join his cult, all wearing masks.

Funny he didn't send his black and muslim mates to defend the statues 😂

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Are you thick PM asked for his reasoning and that what he gave.

Yeah PM asked for his reason why he wants a ban specifcally on muslims immigrants, and his response was pulling out the Quran.

What a pillock. And you're a pillock for defending that.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Lmao you keep trying to use that as if it matters because of your feelings about him. Get over it boy.

I'm only stating facts and not getting emotional like you.

Hence why I said he has a fair point about the police killing black people being more of an issue of police brutality than it is police racism.

After all, they did smack down that old white man, whilst 50 of them let it happen, and made up a fake statement later about how the man tripped and fell.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Yeah he does but he isn’t fake and not prepared to point out double standards awarded to some and not others while screaming about equal right.

You by saying defending memorials because of the violence it leads to.

Did he force people to damage and vandalise memorials ? No, so trying to blame others for a reaction is weak

Hilarious thing is, it seems you didn't even watch the full video you were accusing me of being closed minded for not watching.

He outright admits that's going to cause riots, which was his reason for not going in the end, and apologised for his psychotic rant which got the media attention.

And yet you're arguing this, whilst claiming EVERYTHING he said in the video was corect. What a brain washed muppet you are.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Another lie , the video shows stuff that’s happened in the uk.

I didn't say he ONLY showed things happening in America. But that was the vast majority of what he showed.

Seems you just randomly throw out accusations.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Look if your not prepared to stand up for something don’t complain because have the balls to truly stand up instead of been fake.

You need to quote me properly because it's getting difficult to determine exactly which point you're referring to in your crazy rant.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
You mean a heavy handed copper, the very same rioters are fighting with in the US. Double stand again.

Heavy handed? Really? I didn't realise police in the UK shoot drunk people down for resisting arrest, or strangle people to death, or smack an old man to the floor. You will have to be clear which of those extremes this "heavy handed" police man went to.

So now you're justifying attacking police officers just to defend TR.

You couldn't be anymore of a far right tool.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
It’s just shows how much of a piece of shit you really are if you think someone punchIng another grown man for groping your daughter is such a bad thing. Wonder why you think it’s ok a adult to grope a kid.

Did I say that was a bad thing IF that's what actually happened. No.

You're having to make multiple fake accusations against me because I'm intellectually ripping your arguments apart and you know it.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
More excuses. Irony of you claiming brainwashed when you think one course of action is ok and another not when both are down to something the believe in.

Yeah terrorism and thuggery is not as justified as peaceful protests just because they are both beliefs. You're not even trying to be rational anymore.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
He didn’t have to condemn it. He has no problem speaking his mind so he doesn’t have the need to plz clowns like you.

It shows he's full of shit and has no real or consistent moral values. But you refuse to see it because he's brainwashed you.