Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
But what about people you claim are alcoholics DDM? Is it easy not to bully them or incite others to mate?Just putting it out there...
You can't bully bullies who are bullying you. It's impossible.
To make it more clear, I've told Supra to stop attacking PVS that PVS was not in a good place. Supra sent me a message specifically asking what PVS' problem was.
Thanks for giving me an opportunity to point out how amazingly righteous and consistent I am. Not kidding. I'm just that amazing.
Originally posted by Scribble
You mean like Bash did for ages, until xyz suddenly had the correct opinions?
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
unaware of that one, before my return. Although, you're clearly aware of what I do mean. 🙂
Absolute amazing that Whirly missed this even though it happened just mere weeks ago.
Originally posted by Scribble
Oh, you guys were talking about Bash? The guy who bullies literally everyone except Adam, Rob and Whirly? That Bash?The same Bash who bullied me into a minor breakdown just weeks ago, despite me telling him I was in a bad way and asking him to leave me alone? hmm
Originally posted by Scribble
Also the same Bash who repeatedly weaponised my trans identity against me and mocked me for it, despite me having mentioned in the past that my gender dysphoria was so bad it made me suicidal? hmmWe are talking about the same guy, right?
Yes. That one.
There are way too many stories about that guy.
Originally posted by Scribble
Whatever works for you, man. I prefer female ones overall as I'm trying to properly move that way finally, but I'm pretty chill with it allI still refer to myself as a guy all the time, just out of habit
I'll try to keep that in mind.
My experience in the real world - only one transgender person was ever militant and hysterical about the pronouns. Every other person was "super chill" about it and never jumped down people's throats for it. But I've only been friends (meaning, we did more than chat on the internet such as going to events, eating lunch, etc.) with 2 transgender people, however. The rest were work associates and acquaintances.
Where I was going with that: I think the stereotype that all transgender people are emotionally unstable, hysterical, authoritarians about everything including pronouns, is false. From my experience, almost no one was like that.
Originally posted by dadudemonI have it on good word from someone I trust that PVS is a seriously ****ed up guy. I just found the PMs that detail all the GS stuff and holy ****ing shit, it's worse than I remembered. Not to mention he never apologised to anyone for how cruel and toxic he was. The idea of these guys trying to play him as a victim now is astoundingly hilarious.
Yes. That one.There are way too many stories about that guy.
edit: Bash is nowhere near as bad now as he was in those days (despite how he's treated me). But just like xyz, neither have apologised for their past behaviour. "Forgive and forget" only applies when people apologise, imo.
Originally posted by dadudemonYeah it's not a big deal for me. If we were out in public and you were kept calling me a 'he' I'd be like "wtf, can you not?" but no more than that, really.
I'll try to keep that in mind.My experience in the real world - only one transgender person was ever militant and hysterical about the pronouns. Every other person was "super chill" about it and never jumped down people's throats for it. But I've only been friends (meaning, we did more than chat on the internet such as going to events, eating lunch, etc.) with 2 transgender people, however. The rest were work associates and acquaintances.
Where I was going with that: I think the stereotype that all transgender people are emotionally unstable, hysterical, authoritarians about everything including pronouns, is false. From my experience, almost no one was like that.
I mean I can be emotionally unstable and hysterical, just not about pronouns haermm
Although if a leftist continually misgenders me, then you'd better bet I'll make a point of it.
Originally posted by ScribbleI'm not just talking about PVS, if indeed that's who I was talking about. Loads of other doxxing stalking examples. I did my best to stop people making unfounded accusations about at least members of Voltron. 😂 So many people have done truly weird shit. I never gossip over message here, if Surt is honest his not knowing or wanting to know names is something we share. I also think he probably has a job and his back story is trolling, but I'll play along. 😂
I have it on good word from someone I trust that PVS is a seriously ****ed up guy. I just found the PMs that detail all the GS stuff and holy ****ing shit, it's worse than I remembered. Not to mention he never apologised to anyone for how cruel and toxic he was. The idea of these guys trying to play him as a victim now is astoundingly hilarious.edit: Bash is nowhere near as bad now as he was in those days. But just like xyz, neither have apologised for their past behaviour. "Forgive and forget" only applies when people apologise, imo.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!tbf, I don't see you doing those disability jokes about Surt that Bash et al. do, or at least I haven't noticed it. You are a troll, but you're an internet troll with a code of ethics, from what I can tell. You've no interest in taking stuff offline or even past KMC.
I'm not just talking about PVS, if indeed that's who I was talking about. Loads of other doxxing stalking examples. I did my best to stop people making unfounded accusations about at least members of Voltron. 😂 So many people have done truly weird shit. I never gossip over message here, if Surt is honest his not knowing or wanting to know names is something we share. I also think he probably has a job and his back story is trolling, but I'll play along. 😂
I could be wrong, idk, I still don't know much of the history of the GDF, but you mostly seem like a decent guy to me, overall. I don't mind being trolled, it gives me someone to pass the time of day with.
Originally posted by ScribbleI know where almost all the bodies are buried here. Bash isn't anywhere near as bad as some would pretend and others are far worse than they make out. I have been unpleasant to Surt, but only when he was actively trying to get me banned when I first came back. Like I said I think his whole backstory is an excellent troll.
tbf, I don't see you doing those disability jokes about Surt that Bash et al. do, or at least I haven't noticed it. You are a troll, but you're an internet troll with a code of ethics, from what I can tell. You've no interest in taking stuff offline or even past KMC.I could be wrong, idk, I still don't know much of the history of the GDF, but you mostly seem like a decent guy to me, overall. I don't mind being trolled, it gives me someone to pass the time of day with.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!I'm irl lifelong friends with someone who went through the Gathering Static years with PVS and he confirmed all of the nasty and weird shit PVS used to do. I mean, Bash isn't AC-tier irredeemable or anything, just a really nasty guy who's never apologised for his behaviour. He's by far been one of the members I've had the nastiest shit from, alongside xyz and Oneness.
I know where almost all the bodies are buried here. Bash isn't anywhere near as bad as some would pretend and others are far worse than they make out. I have been unpleasant to Surt, but only when he was actively trying to get me banned when I first came back. Like I said I think his whole backstory is an excellent troll.
Originally posted by Scribble
I have it on good word from someone I trust that PVS is a seriously ****ed up guy. I just found the PMs that detail all the GS stuff and holy ****ing shit, it's worse than I remembered. Not to mention he never apologised to anyone for how cruel and toxic he was. The idea of these guys trying to play him as a victim now is astoundingly hilarious.edit: Bash is nowhere near as bad now as he was in those days (despite how he's treated me). But just like xyz, neither have apologised for their past behaviour. "Forgive and forget" only applies when people apologise, imo.
I was a first-hand witness to some of those things happening years ago when they were going down. But based on what you say, it looks like I am only aware of the tip of the iceberg and that rabbit hole gets deeper.
I'd like to steer clear of this topic, though. It's toxic and might land us in trouble.