Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Did I say you were. Is it any weirder than confusing black on black crime, general crime and murder of blacks by the police to create dissent?
Nope, it's just meant to understand a movement which can represnt more than one issue at a time.
I already showed the google trends, it shows a political movement far more then something that actually represents care for a cause.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
it's a protest movement obviously.
Herp derp, if only......unless google lies due to elections.....I don't see this activity from any other police/black deaths just this one......it's just political and its sad to see the pawns biting the hanging fruit
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=blm
Let's adjust our persective some to just black people:
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fm%2F01hwt&date=today%205-y&geo=US
We can do this all day and dance with numbers because it's not changing views here but at least we can give some facts.
Originally posted by snowdragonit's the kind of profile I would expect from a protest movement.
Herp derp, if only......unless google lies due to elections.....I don't see this activity from any other police/black deaths just this one......it's just political and its sad to see the pawns biting the hanging fruithttps://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=blm
Let's adjust our persective some to just black people:
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fm%2F01hwt&date=today%205-y&geo=US
We can do this all day and dance with numbers because it's not changing views here but at least we can give some facts.
Originally posted by snowdragonit's the kind of profile I would expect from a protest movement. What do you think it shows and why?
Herp derp, if only......unless google lies due to elections.....I don't see this activity from any other police/black deaths just this one......it's just political and its sad to see the pawns biting the hanging fruithttps://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=blm
Let's adjust our persective some to just black people:
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fm%2F01hwt&date=today%205-y&geo=US
We can do this all day and dance with numbers because it's not changing views here but at least we can give some facts.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
it's the kind of profile I would expect from a protest movement.
That could be true but they coincide so closely to elections it's easy to draw a relationship.......if the movement had real strength their numbers would be up far more thoughout the year.
This isn't the only police/murder case over the last 4 years to draw on.
Originally posted by snowdragonwe just had multiple events that will put numbers up mate.
That could be true but they coincide so closely to elections it's easy to draw a relationship.......if the movement had real strength their numbers would be up far more thoughout the year.This isn't the only police/murder case over the last 4 years to draw on.
Originally posted by snowdragonThe problem with this is that it only works for the last two election cycles, so it's not really sustainable as a theory (yet). The 2004—present results show at least two other spikes in searches for 'black people' at intervals not (seemingly) connected to election cycles, and a search I did for 'white supremacy' doesn't follow the same pattern as 'blm' or 'black people' (although the results are hitting the same peaks right now).
That could be true but they coincide so closely to elections it's easy to draw a relationship.......if the movement had real strength their numbers would be up far more thoughout the year.This isn't the only police/murder case over the last 4 years to draw on.
That being said I basically think this entire year has been a fix-up, and I do think the George Floyd case has been chosen and used specifically by manipulating parties, but on a larger scale than just Dems VS Repubs.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
we just had multiple events that will put numbers up mate.
Even quoting you I feel like I ate crazy pills to justify the response. Did you not read what I said? Are you just quoting me to troll?
I've validated my position, you just continue to troll without substance. I get it, you're old and unable to use google now and ask decent searches, I forgive you 😛
The problem with this is that it only works for the last two election cycles, so it's not really sustainable as a theory (yet). The 2004—present results show at least two other spikes in searches for 'black people' at intervals not (seemingly) connected to election cycles, and a search I did for 'white supremacy' doesn't follow the same pattern as 'blm' or 'black people' (although the results are hitting the same peaks right now).
Use the google trends I linked, aside from that as I said in the past the places with the most crime/poverty are places controlled by democrats and in many places black democrats🙂
Originally posted by snowdragonEverything I just described was done through Google Trends, accessed through the links you provided.
Use the google trends I linked, aside from that as I said in the past the places with the most crime/poverty are places controlled by democrats and in many places black democrats🙂
I agree with you on the fact that Democrat-run areas seem to be the worst areas for black people in the US, from what I've seen, anyway.
Originally posted by snowdragon
Use the google trends I linked, aside from that as I said in the past the places with the most crime/poverty are places controlled by democrats and in many places black democrats🙂
Not to shit on your position but is there an example of a Republican controlled and dominated city that shows black crime is lower, per capita, compared to the Democrat cities?
In other words, do you have an example of a GOP city that proves there is at least a correlate with the Democrats? It would be great fuel for my anti-Democrat bias, yes, but I also would be hesitant, without some good data, on ever using that talking point.
Check Tulsa out, maybe? Tulsa is the 47th largest city in the US.
Current mayor is Republican.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._T._Bynum
Our Governor is Stitt and he's also a Republican.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Not to shit on your position but is there an example of a Republican controlled and dominated city that shows black crime is lower, per capita, compared to the Democrat cities?In other words, do you have an example of a GOP city that proves there is at least a correlate with the Democrats? It would be great fuel for my anti-Democrat bias, yes, but I also would be hesitant, without some good data, on every using that talking point.
Check Tulsa out, maybe? Tulsa is the 47th largest city in the US.
Current mayor is Republican.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._T._Bynum
Our Governor is Stitt and he's also a Republican.
I said most not all, now wipe my ass. 😱
Originally posted by snowdragon
I said most not all, now wipe my ass. 😱
I did find some data but it is old and cannot be used for the GOP vs. Dem analysis we talked about.
But, hey, it looks like I may have found a good organization in Tulsa to contribute to in from that article:
100 Black Men of Tulsa pairs black youths with successful black men to show them that failure and a life of crime don’t have to be their destiny.
Nice.
I participate with a similar, though not the same, type of group in OKC. But these days, I'm in Tulsa more.
Originally posted by socool8520
They also have a disproportionate involvement in criminal activity. It's unfortunate, but it's true. This does not excuse police brutality though, but it will skew the death numbers. Again, I'm all for calling out the police, but for everyone.Why is this primary issue of concern? It's not even close to the leading cause of death of Black people in America. I would certainly address the issue that was most prominent in destroying people over a much smaller one. That's just me though I guess. If one truly cares for black people, they will tackle all the issues no? And logically, it would be the most serious right?
You're right, but white people also weren't talking about white lives matter either until the BLM movement.
I have stated there should be better training for Police many times, for the betterment of all people. If we want to improve the lives of Black people, however, this isn't even close to the biggest issue to tackle.
Black people are not participating in criminal activity at greater rates than white people, they are being policed at a rate seven times greater than white people.
Moreover, the leading cause of death for black people is heart disease. By your reasoning, unless Black Lives Matter is spearheading nutrition education programs to reduce the number of heart disease deaths in the black community, then they cannot address the extrajudicious killings of black people. That is how stupid the "black-on-black crime" argument is.
Originally posted by Adam_PoEA lot of evidence supports what you are saying here. The rightists dismismiss the data though as politicised.
Black people are not participating in criminal activity at greater rates than white people, they are being policed at a rate seven times greater than white people.Moreover, the leading cause of death for black people is heart disease. By your reasoning, unless Black Lives Matter is spearheading nutrition education programs to reduce the number of heart disease deaths in the black community, then they cannot address the extrajudicious killings of black people. That is how stupid the "black-on-black crime" argument is.
Originally posted by snowdragon
Plus there is ZERO reason they couldn't pick up the notion that black on black violence kills (vast majority of black deaths) and put that under their banner at the sametime, makes the movement far more genuine.But that wouldn't fit a narrative so you know 😘
Protest movements affect change in systems, not individuals. Picketing a police station may lead to the arrest of an officer who committed a crime, but it is not going to do anything to stop a domestic abuser from assaulting his wife or child.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Black people are not participating in criminal activity at greater rates than white people, they are being policed at a rate seven times greater than white people.Moreover, the leading cause of death for black people is heart disease. By your reasoning, unless Black Lives Matter is spearheading nutrition education programs to reduce the number of heart disease deaths in the black community, then they cannot address the extrajudicious killings of black people. That is how stupid the "black-on-black crime" argument is.
In terms of pure crime, I agree.
Poor white people sell their meth, make their bootleg booze, commit all sorts of petty crimes. At the worst, some murder for money, or some just murder.
I'm not all that sure there's an analogy for the like of The Crips and Bloods though. Closest may be the Italian Mafia, but they're essentially defunct now, on life support at best.
I'm talking the casual murder on a large group scale, the wars, that kind of thing.