White Lives Matter banner flew over football game

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Protest movements affect change in systems, not individuals. Picketing a police station may lead to the arrest of an officer who committed a crime, but it is not going to do anything to stop a domestic abuser from assaulting his wife or child.

That's a myopic and childish stance, of course it deserves the same consideration due to the fact it can literally be changed at homes in communities vs an entire system tied to a legislative body that can take months/years to make changes.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
...they are being policed at a rate seven times greater than white people.

Where have I seen that 7 times stat, before...hmm

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Moreover, the leading cause of death for black people is heart disease. By your reasoning, unless Black Lives Matter is spearheading nutrition education programs to reduce the number of heart disease deaths in the black community, then they cannot address the extrajudicious killings of black people. That is how stupid the "black-on-black crime" argument is.

If black lives mattered, then we'd address the disproportionate reasons black people are dying. You know. Because black lives actually matter.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Protest movements affect change in systems, not individuals. Picketing a police station may lead to the arrest of an officer who committed a crime, but it is not going to do anything to stop a domestic abuser from assaulting his wife or child.

Okay, so we picket and protest at police stations for months and months.

And we get change.

Now we saved the future 10 unarmed black men who would have been killed by police each year.

So what's next to save black lives?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
no he wouldn't, I'm asking you to prove money from a specific source held centrally by a company that holds money from many sources is the source of the donations you talk about. When the source of your charts say.

Interesting that the moment dadudemon cannot qualify his statements or substantiate his claims, it suddenly does not matter. If he cannot even discuss the issue with honesty, then perhaps he should not discuss the topic at all.

Originally posted by snowdragon
That's a myopic and childish stance, of course it deserves the same consideration due to the fact it can literally be changed at homes in communities vs an entire system tied to a legislative body that can take months/years to make changes.

No one suggested that the rate of violent crimes cannot be reduced through other methods. Only that a protest movement is not the one to do it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
If black lives mattered, then we'd address the disproportionate reasons black people are dying. You know. Because black lives actually matter.

If you find fault with the slogan, you should share your concerns with the founders of Black Lives Matter.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Okay, so we picket and protest at police stations for months and months.

And we get change.

Now we saved the future 10 unarmed black men who would have been killed by police each year.

So what's next to save black lives?

Get involved with black community activists and ask them.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Get involved with black community activists and ask them.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Get involved with black community activists and ask them.

Like which communities have u gotten involved with?

If America can't get it's act together and stop ten black lives being destroyed by police brutality every year, then nothing is every going to be done about the 1000s of others that die due to inner city violence.

Responding to one black body by just pointing at a pile of other ones only creates an apathetic cycle of do-nothingery imo.

You have two patients. one has 4 gunshot wounds and the other has a papercut. which has a higher priority?

Thats an unfair analogy, that downplays the fact we are talking about people that have been killed.

I dont think the death of George Floyd should be compared with a paper cut.

It's an accurate analogy.

Okay, it also creates a false dilemma by suggesting both issues cannot be solved at once. I can go on.

No it doesn't, it just asks which should be given the highest priority.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Get involved with black community activists and ask them.

Are you involved?

Originally posted by DarthAloysius
If America can't get it's act together and stop ten black lives being destroyed by police brutality every year, then nothing is every going to be done about the 1000s of others that die due to inner city violence.

Responding to one black body by just pointing at a pile of other ones only creates an apathetic cycle of do-nothingery imo.

How about all the gangs violences, how do you deal with that? How about the facts that there are more Black on Black crimes? Or the fact that Plan Parenthood was created by a woman that used to write letters to Hitler, and she created said organization with the sole purpose of wiping out Blacks from this country?

How do you solve these issues?

Originally posted by Surtur
Like which communities have u gotten involved with?

Originally posted by SquallX
Are you involved?

Yes, are you?

Originally posted by SquallX
How about all the gangs violences, how do you deal with that? How about the facts that there are more Black on Black crimes? Or the fact that Plan Parenthood was created by a woman that used to write letters to Hitler, and she created said organization with the sole purpose of wiping out Blacks from this country?

How do you solve these issues?

This country was founded by men who owned slaves. By your reasoning, we should abolish the American experiment.

^More anti-American trash talk from someone who still hypocritically enjoys the advantages and rights that being an American entails. If you don't like America or its heroic founders then move your ass to a different country you ungrateful p-o-s.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If you find fault with the slogan, you should share your concerns with the founders of Black Lives Matter.

I specifically addressed your post, not the slogan, and you've dodged what I addressed. Not surprised.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Get involved with black community activists and ask them.

I already am and I already know the actual issues impacting black lives. Hint: it's not the 10 unarmed black men killed by police. 👆

Originally posted by DarthAloysius
If America can't get it's act together and stop ten black lives being destroyed by police brutality every year, then nothing is every going to be done about the 1000s of others that die due to inner city violence.

Responding to one black body by just pointing at a pile of other ones only creates an apathetic cycle of do-nothingery imo.

I know you're just trolling, Whirly, but you do actually make a good point and I agree with it earlier.

But my question still remains. We've solved the 10 black lives lost by picketing and protesting police departments and flooding our representatives with angry letters, picketing, and protests. We finally got comprehensive legislation passed that better regulates police and they use better de-escalation tactics and engagement tactics. 10 black unarmed don't die each year because of these efforts (even 1 life is worth it).

But what's next? Still hundreds of thousands of more black lives being lost. Disproportionately compared to other race demographics.

I think Silent Master is right. But you're also right: we can tackle both.

Do the stuff I suggested to snowdragon to fix the police.

Implement affordable UHC to address much of the other things affecting the black community.

End up saving more lives from other race demographics (but it would disproportionately help black lives which is a win).