Angels invade Beyonder Verse

lol no one cares about your opinion hulkster

Lucifer solos marvel, stay mad

Originally posted by Galan007
Even though it shouldn't have been needed, Broly already clarified that the Angels are meant to be operating at their full capacity here.

Now lets move on...

Even if they are, they are still within a realm that is owned by beings that are considered the God/s of that realm. How can a definite answer be given? How do the Angels take full authority if any in that reality? What would happen if these Angels went to Mxy's dimension? Would they become the new Authority in that dimension?

Originally posted by Galan007
Powerful as they were, the Ivory Kings were still just one species that lived inside the Beyond Realm, but they did not embody the realm itself. In fact, there are a multitude of different species who reside in the Beyond Realm nowadays:
https://i.imgur.com/czG7ZQS.jpg

Your scan says that they are the embodiment of their realm. That they are many, while still being one. Or did I comprehend it wrong?

The Beyond Corporation are one group who inhabits the Beyond -- they are the "many acting as a collective" that he mentioned in the scan.

But then he goes on to say that there are "many others like us. Many kinds." Meaning there are a multitude of different factions that reside in the Beyond Realm.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even though it shouldn't have been needed, Broly already clarified that the Angels are meant to be operating at their full capacity here.

Now lets move on...

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Originally posted by Galan007
The Beyond Corporation are one group who inhabits the Beyond -- they are the "many acting as a collective" that he mentioned in the scan.

But then he goes on to say that there are "many others like us. Many kinds." Meaning there are a multitude of different factions that reside in the Beyond Realm.

Yes I get that part, and fully understand it. However it also states that they are one, and that they are the embodiment of that space. Am I correct, or is there something that I missed? Also there's my earlier question...

What would happen if these Angels went to Mxy's dimension? Would they take full authority over that dimension without question? And yes, they are going in full capacity.

Originally posted by Stoic
Yes I get that part, and fully understand it. However it also states that ther are one, and that they are the embodiment of that space. Am I correct, or is there something that I missed? Also there's my earlier question...

What would happen if these Angels went to Mxy's dimension? Would they take full authority over that dimension without question? And yes, they are going in full capacity.

Not sure why you're bringing up Mxy here, but are you asking if I believe Michael/Lucifer are above him on the totem pole? If so, yes I do. Always have.

and consider mxy can destroy and recreate the omniverse with a snap

that really put into perspective how insane lucifer and michael is

I don't think anyone in fiction other than the supreme beings can defeat the brothers together

Michael/Lucifer embody the literal power and will of the The Presence himself. As such, The Presence really is the only being who should be superior to them, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
Michael/Lucifer embody the literal power and will of the The Presence himself. As such, The Presence really is the only being who should be superior to them, imo.

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Michael is described to be a "spark that expand forever" and an "ocean of power with no shore", you can't get more infinite than that

We have Lucifer in the Mansions of Silence, actually erasing infinite universes with his presence

We have Lucifer tanking a multiversal level blast at point blank range, 3 times, including when he was severely weakened

and many many other insane feats to name

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Michael and Lucifer invade the Beyonder Verse

Can they destroy the Universe

Originally posted by DaltonChance
Angel Whis ftw

You seem to think Dragon Ball is that powerful.

Either Michael or Lucifer would wipe all of the DBS verse with their mere presence without even trying.

Originally posted by SquallX
You seem to think Dragon Ball is that powerful.

Either Michael or Lucifer would wipe all of the DBS verse with their mere presence without even trying.

Beyonder is currently one HALF of a cosmic cube IIRC, unless you're talking about the BeyonderS that killed LT in which case I concede they'd even beat OMni king

Originally posted by DaltonChance
The most I ever saw reading that comic was that the Demiurge could destroy a planet

Are you joking?

Michael after being captured and tortured, had his power syphon for untold times, to save the Multiverse, he had to be teleport outside of the Multiverse where he blew up, and Lucifer used the Demiurgos to shape a brand new Multiverse.

Michael posses the totality of the Presence itself. He is Multiversal.

Originally posted by SquallX
Are you joking?

Michael after being captured and tortured, had his power syphon for untold times, to save the Multiverse, he had to be teleport outside of the Multiverse where he blew up, and Lucifer used the Demiurgos to shape a brand new Multiverse.

Michael posses the totality of the Presence itself. He is Multiversal.

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Originally posted by MrMind
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Michael is described to be a "spark that expand forever" and an "ocean of power with no shore", you can't get more infinite than that

He's got these as well...

Raphael: "Michael is a vessel for the Divine Power. If he dies --if that vessel cracks-- the worlds will be scoured clean of life. There will be nothing left.":
http://i.imgur.com/1kUKe5j.jpg

Michael: "There is a power within me. The Dunamis Demiurgos. God's power. When I die, it will pour out of me and overwhelm everything that exists.":
http://i.imgur.com/Yr4a38e.jpg

Here we see Michael actually put that power to work...

"Examine your own substance. Or that of anything you see --stars, stones, water, air-- look close enough and you will see Michael's will working there."

"That is impossible! What you suggest, only God can do!"

"He is the Demiurge. God chose him as his second. Now, as God's mark fades and creation falters, Michael renews it moment by moment. He writes God's name afresh on every atom of existence.":
http://i.imgur.com/biVHYbS.jpg

All of that being said, Lucifer effortlessly warped the totality of Michael's Demiurgic power --the literal/actual power of God-- into a physical creation of his own, and then seemingly recreated Michael himself:
https://i.imgur.com/I31P8EQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bGDEFZD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/C6mYkPU.jpg
...He was also completely unfazed by energies of that magnitude(ie. truly infinite energies) detonating in his face.

Also worth nothing that Lucifer casually whipped up and manipulated concepts like time itself, while creating his multiverse:
https://i.imgur.com/mVKoEdf.jpg

Originally posted by MrMind
We have Lucifer in the Mansions of Silence, actually erasing infinite universes with his presence

We have Lucifer tanking a multiversal level blast at point blank range, 3 times, including when he was severely weakened

and many many other insane feats to name

And Mike Carey himself solidified this notion in the letters section of the series:
https://i.imgur.com/j3730wR.jpg
"Obviously Lucifer is the second most powerful being in the whole of creation."

Great posts.

If Lucifer could create Michael, why didn’t he recreate him after he died.

Also how do you get imgur to open those automatically without without it having To ask

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Great posts.

If Lucifer could create Michael, why didn’t he recreate him after he died.

Also how do you get imgur to open those automatically without without it having To ask

I think you’re misinterpreting the scene. Lucifer didn’t recreate Michael, all he did after Michael died, was to use God’s power and shape his own Multiverse outside of God’s domain and will.