Originally posted by Galan007
👆He's got these as well...
Raphael: "Michael is a vessel for the Divine Power. If he dies --if that vessel cracks-- the worlds will be scoured clean of life. There will be nothing left.":
http://i.imgur.com/1kUKe5j.jpg
Michael: "There is a power within me. The Dunamis Demiurgos. God's power. When I die, it will pour out of me and overwhelm everything that exists.":
http://i.imgur.com/Yr4a38e.jpg
Here we see Michael actually put that power to work...
"Examine your own substance. Or that of anything you see --stars, stones, water, air-- look close enough and you will see Michael's will working there."
"That is impossible! What you suggest, only God can do!"
"He is the Demiurge. God chose him as his second. Now, as God's mark fades and creation falters, Michael renews it moment by moment. He writes God's name afresh on every atom of existence.":
http://i.imgur.com/biVHYbS.jpg
All of that being said, Lucifer effortlessly warped the totality of Michael's Demiurgic power --the literal/actual power of God-- into a physical creation of his own, and then seemingly recreated Michael himself:
https://i.imgur.com/I31P8EQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bGDEFZD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/C6mYkPU.jpg
...He was also completely unfazed by energies of that magnitude(ie. truly infinite energies) detonating in his face.
Also worth nothing that Lucifer casually whipped up and manipulated concepts like time itself, while creating his multiverse:
https://i.imgur.com/mVKoEdf.jpg
It has always been telling to be that, in addition to the above, Dream stated that Lucifer was not only the most powerful Angel, but also the most powerful being in existence(second only to The Presence):
https://i.imgur.com/t8WC2Pa.jpg
And Mike Carey himself solidified this notion in the letters section of the series:
https://i.imgur.com/j3730wR.jpg
"Obviously Lucifer is the second most powerful being in the whole of creation."
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Michael oneshotted Corrigan's Spectre while holding back lol, consider that was spectre during his prime, make it extra impressive. he was stated to be infinitely more powerful than lords of order like nabu.
The demiurgic power could build and break all creation, His death would mean the destruction of all creation.
he could've ended the Lucifer's rebellion army with a simple gesture, which was a third of host angels, I remember it was nigh inifnite numbers.
Elaine used Michael's power to make a third creation alongside Presence and Lucifer's, also worth noting it doesn't matter if the terminology is "universe" or "multiverse", it's the same size as Presecen's original creation, consider it's the same infinite energy being used.
it was stated, Lucifer's own creation is the same size as the Presence's,
I think he's just too lazy to seperate and categorize it into different tiers of dimensions and universes, and even then it has countless higher dimensions that dwarfed the worlds
the fact is Lucifer manipulated all time and space in all dimensions of two separate totalities simultaneously
wiping an Eldritch being (of whom has leached off of multiple universes beyond DC, and not made by the Presence) out of existence with a thought, These eldritch beings are no doubt compared to dc higher level of races, I mean Silk Man alone is just insane....
I haven't even gotten into the scaling yet, endless who were implied to be inferior than the angel brothers, have performed multiversal/creation level feats many many times. Dream alone has created multiverse twice and he isn't even the most powerful endless.
It's even more impressive when we put things in perspective of how insane dc cosmology is, the 5th dimension, monitor realm, dark multiverse, super celestial beings like perpetua, how sphere of gods infinitely dwarf conventional third dimension infinite universes.etc etc too many to name
keep in mind top angels reside in heaven but they are not confined by dimension tiering, they can transcend the confinement of gods sphere. it's pretty much a given since lucifer has flown into overvoid and explored other creations (multiverses) made by super celestial beings.
and the brothers are on the highest totem pole of all that. I still believe that, some monitor supporters rank mandrakk and thought robot on a higher level, but I don't believe that, and there are a lot of evidence against meta beings scaling above the angels. I do however hope DC gets their hierarchy in complete order. Mostly the DeMatteis/Carey Christianity based Cosmology versus Snyder/Morrison Meta Cosmology. and we know DC absolutely acknowledge vertigo cosmology, just most recently we see snyder mentioning Presence still as the TOP DOG of dc. which was reassuring.
I'll use another example. Darkseid as a dying new god could collapse the dc prime multiverse with his body falling. because he's a higher dimensional being, but compare to toher big dogs, darkseid is as inconsequential as a dust. well... there is that one time spectre killed darkseid and presence revived him. claimin he's essential... but let's be honest how "essential" can new gods really be lol
