Originally posted by StyleTime
Are we including of all time, or just recent characters?If it's the former, I'd nominate pre-boot Deathstroke tbh. The natural ebb and flow of forum fandom has leaned away from it, but he was wanked beyond belief for a hot minute there in the past. Forum Slade had Wolverine level healing with Flash level reflexes and Karate Kid skills and Spiderman's precog and such.
Everyone is focusing on heralds, but Slade threads were a huge pain at one point in time. Even recently, people still argued he could replicate movie Deadpool's absurd bullet deflection feat in X-Men Origins. Like...wut. Even movie Deadpool couldn't replicate his own feat again. It was that silly of a showing that it was officially called out.
Lady Shiva and Midnighter(if he counts) might get honorable mentions, depending on who you ask.
Oh yes, Lady Shiva. Actually, add Karate Kid there lol.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Are we including of all time, or just recent characters?If it's the former, I'd nominate pre-boot Deathstroke tbh. The natural ebb and flow of forum fandom has leaned away from it, but he was wanked beyond belief for a hot minute there in the past. Forum Slade had Wolverine level healing with Flash level reflexes and Karate Kid skills and Spiderman's precog and such.
Everyone is focusing on heralds, but Slade threads were a huge pain at one point in time. Even recently, people still argued he could replicate movie Deadpool's absurd bullet deflection feat in X-Men Origins. Like...wut. Even movie Deadpool couldn't replicate his own feat again. It was that silly of a showing that it was officially called out in a later movie.
Lady Shiva and Midnighter(if he counts) might get honorable mentions, depending on who you ask.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's it? That's the Wisdom? Don't give your secret identity away?Wow.
That is more wisodm than anything else I have read in the last couple of years, tbf.
IIRC there was an instance where he fought deamons and could see their weakness and see through their disguise with the wisdom. But it's kind of long ago, so I might be wrong.
And things like this.
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/1/18519/678798-wisdom.jpg
Yeah. I was going to challenge people to post without using a respect thread, his top five Wisdom feats. It's the first letter of Shazam, after all.
We see his strength, power, durability, speed, all of that, time and time again. His speed is top tier, his strength and durability too. So his Wisdom should be as well.
We just almost never see it. And he's been around for quite a while. I remember in the Obsidian Age storyline, when Batman recruits him for the replacement league, his wisdom kicked in and he rejected membership in order to do more good in the JSA.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well I'd argue it's less of an overrating with his gear now (the Ion suit and his sword).....Lol at Wolverine healing though, however he DID show his bullet wounds closing up before people's eyes in Rebirth.....
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh yes, Lady Shiva. Actually, add Karate Kid there lol.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Shiva is a hype train that never left the station, and these idiots are here to tell us how fast and powerful the train is.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Hahaha. 👆
I came here in early '09 and I think I caught the tail end of that. Around here he was street god for a bit during that time.
And all because Slade pulled a heavy rope. vin
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You said there’s objectively nobody faster than Flash (no version specified). You also said Superman is undeniably the top boy in DC.
Just seems to me that if Superman is the top boy, then he must be faster than Flash.
Alternatively, if Flash is objectively faster than Superman, then Flash must be the top boy/antibody/premier DC character. In forum conditions, full capacity etc, no PIS, Superman has no way to tag him.
They can’t both be supreme but the forum
Why does one need to exclude the other?
In Marvel is Hulk not the strongest one there is?
Yet he isn't the most powerful, he isn't the supreme character.
There are many characters due to incredible versatility of powers are vastly more powerful than him.
That doesnt make them stronger, nor doesnthem beingnweaker than Hulk make them less powerful.
Emma will be honest I dispute the idea that Superman is "the top boy" because there are a number of characters who operate on a higher Echelon and above him. It would be fare to say he is the top boy of the "mortal" range.
The fact that Superman has other powers to the same or higher level that Flash has speed puts him above Flash in a tier, I don't think that is even debatable. If his strength and Durability etc were to a much lower degree there would be a debate in that. That doesnt mean that Supes has to be faster than Flash for him to retain superiority overall. If the gap between Flash and Supes in speed were an insurmountable chasm, that would also bring in room for debate, but it's not