Originally posted by Lestov16
I think that's what he's saying. Maybe you're misinterpreting him that same way you misinterpreted McClane's victory over Bauer 😎I definitely agree about the election process, and I think we will see some major legislative progress in regards to bureaucratic efficiency going forward. The Neo-Roaring Twenties are about to be phucking epic!
I don't believe so and ha, those were good MVF times.
How so in your view?
Originally posted by Robtard
DDM,You're still punishing people for something they may have no control over and denying them the right to vote.
You're the only one who brought up "race", I noted how your stance could affect "poverty" and poverty isn't one-race-specific.
Your plan is elitism, it's not good.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Since I fundamentally disagree - because I do not believe humans not automatons incapable of thinking and learning - we will never agree that non-mentally-disabled people have control over educating themselves on the civic system and the current candidates.Even people who are mentally disabled or otherwise incapable of reading have options to educate themselves enough to be prepared to pass the 2 exams I mentioned. Memorization concept retention are things most mentally disabled (but not the severely mentally disabled) are still capable of doing.
This is how far you look down on humans, in general.
Here is a learning opportunity for you, then: poverty disproportionately affects black and Hispanic people in the US compared to white and Asian peoples. Your specific first reply about people who do not have the same opportunities of access has a direct implicit meaning regarding the Hispanic and black citizens in the US. Whether you choose to acknowledge the fact that you just called potential black and Hispanic voters "too dumb and incapable of educating themselves on contemporary politics and American Civics" is irrelevant to the fact that your statement is racist.
So which is it:
A. Black and Hispanic people will always be too dumb to know how American Civics and what the positions are of contemporary candidates on the ballot.
B. Black and Hispanic people possess the same mental capabilities as other race demographics and are more than capable of educating themselves to a minimum level of proficiency in American Civics and the positions of candidates on the ballot.
Do you even talk to black and Hispanic people outside of your small social circle? Are you really that sheltered that you think they are too dumb and ignorant to know how American Civics work?
Edit -
FYI, you're hyper-focused on the 32 million Americans who cannot read:
But that does not include people eligible to vote.
The ability to register to vote is already the same barrier of entry of what I'm talking about. You have to fill out voter registration forms. If you cannot, you must go through an assistant.
Originally posted by Lestov16
So basically, you're criticizing the education system for its whole "White Men are Evil, Melanated Polysexuals are the future" phase that it's going through.
Nope. Has nothing to do with what I think of the education system and only to do with the people who think they know best based on their own education and the science they choose to base some of their political positions on.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Maybe instead, there needs to be some solidarity on a political level, maybe two candidates, one of whom is a minority woman SJW, the other a lecherous privileged white man, who have the geopolitical connections and concern for welfare to make practical and positive changes to the system. Their names rhyme with Clyden and Barris......
No way. Throw out the neo-liberals and give me proper liberals. 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemon
Nope. Has nothing to do with what I think of the education system and only to do with the people who think they know best based on their own education and the science they choose to base some of their political positions on.No way. Throw out the neo-liberals and give me proper liberals. 🙂
Proper liberals? Are you Sargon of Akkad?
Originally posted by Lestov16
Proper liberals? Are you Sargon of Akkad?
Unless the candidate supports the anti-corruption act, an affordable UHC, ending all foreign wars, prioritizing education and science, and de-prioritizing the oligarchical interests, none of them are actual liberals. They can check 1 box but they never want to check the first box.
There's also the hefty pro-liberties portion, too. Such as the Patriot Act being heinous.
Many like to talk the game up but never deliver and actually vote the opposite (Obama)
Originally posted by dadudemon
Unless the candidate supports the anti-corruption act, an affordable UHC, ending all foreign wars, prioritizing education and science, and de-prioritizing the oligarchical interests, none of them are actual liberals. They can check 1 box but they never want to check the first box.There's also the hefty pro-liberties portion, too. Such as the Patriot Act being heinous.
Many like to talk the game up but never deliver and actually vote the opposite (Obama)
That was before 4 years of Trumpfyre Fest. Nowadays, all eyes are on them and they know it. Exactly the way a democracy should be run.
It won't matter to any moderate Neolibs in the dem, they're all for endless foreign wars, a massive intrusion on civil liberties, no UBI, no M4A, and being mediocre on climate change so long as a Democrat is in office. Biden may not be actively making the country worse in COVID, but its essentially a regression in policy/the political state (and somethings not changing/racial unrest) then Trump. Trump's Covid response is his undoing, but Biden will actively renege on his campaign promises and centrists will suck it up like the useful stooges they are.
Originally posted by carthage
It won't matter to any moderate Neolibs in the dem, they're all for endless foreign wars, a massive intrusion on civil liberties, no UBI, no M4A, and being mediocre on climate change so long as a Democrat is in office. Biden may not be actively making the country worse in COVID, but its essentially a regression in policy/the political state (and somethings not changing/racial unrest) then Trump. Trump's Covid response is his undoing, but Biden will actively renege on his campaign promises and centrists will suck it up like the useful stooges they are.
Very nice post and I agree with ALL of it.
Though I'd note that my reason for stating "Trump's response to COVID-19 is bad" is the opposite reason you think so, most likely.
Originally posted by carthage
It won't matter to any moderate Neolibs in the dem, they're all for endless foreign wars, a massive intrusion on civil liberties, no UBI, no M4A, and being mediocre on climate change so long as a Democrat is in office. Biden may not be actively making the country worse in COVID, but its essentially a regression in policy/the political state (and somethings not changing/racial unrest) then Trump. Trump's Covid response is his undoing, but Biden will actively renege on his campaign promises and centrists will suck it up like the useful stooges they are.