Unworthy Thor vs Sinister Six

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What is this scan supposed to prove?

Seriuosly though, not really familiar with arthur beckett feats. I'm sure he has some uber illusions. Most of his uber stuff i'd guess are prepped no? I wonder how effective he would be in this forum setting. At .5k distsnce Thor would prolly have the early advantage.

Anyways Mysterio is a glass canon. Few storm buffets and his effectiveness really goes down hill i would think..

Sandman will be a minor problem.
Also how often does he do this tactic u posted? Btw isnt that alternate Sandman?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://i.ibb.co/nCF00TK/roo.png

Originally posted by Sin I AM
He's posting high end feats as if thats his norm when mysterio has fooled people with better senses. Thats y

In regards to what? He’s never fooled anyone with better senses than Thor, when it comes to storms.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Mysterio's fools Spiderman, who has some of the greatest danger sensing feats out there, so.....

He fooled Old Man Logan, too.

Kinda-sorta failed with Daredevil, but 1) it still took a whole TPB story arc for Matt to solve his riddles and beat him up, 2) Mysterio was depressed and suicidal at the time... not to mention his brain tumor and lung cancer.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Electro wouldn't do anything...neither would kraven, vulture. But sandman and a proper mysterio could wreck him

He'd beat them all. He can whip up rain and lightning. The rain and wind would blow Sandman apart, and the lightning would strike Mysterio. He's above these guys.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
In regards to what? He’s never fooled anyone with better senses than Thor, when it comes to storms.

You want to do a thread using thor senses versus logan/parker/matt?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You want to do a thread using thor senses versus logan/parker/matt?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You want to do a thread using thor senses versus logan/parker/matt?

Like I said, in what regard? I’m sure Logan has better feats of tracking people across the globe via smell. But Thor can do stuff like this: https://ibb.co/Y8BRFBZ

When it comes to storms and whatnot, Mysterio doesn’t have a prayer of fooling him.

Mysterio has fooled the likes of Dr Strange too.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11135/111355351/6937424-illusion-%20hides%20his%20essence%20from%20doctor%20strange.%202%20%20%28doctor%20doom%20and%20the%20masters%20of%20evil%29.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11135/111355351/6937423-illusion-%20hides%20his%20essence%20from%20doctor%20strange.%20%20%28doctor%20doom%20and%20the%20masters%20of%20evil%29.jpg

More importantly, he has already fooled Unworthy Thor.

Fixed links for ya:

1. https://tinyurl.com/ybfc4ayb

2. https://tinyurl.com/y89292q8

Yeah. People think 'oh, Thor will just zap Mysterio' when actually, he'll only THINK he's summoned lightning.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You're grossly overselling Thor and are either ignorant of or hand waving away the potential of a mysterio/sandman teamup.

I'm grossly overselling Thor by posting his feats? Lol, oops my bad.

Let me just agree with whatever you say. I wouldn't want to make you feel bad for being misinformed about Thor's capabilities.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I understand, but your scans of his senses were all of Thor with Mjolnir. All I am asking, I guess, is what was UNWORTHY Thor's best.

OP can clarify if he wants.

Mjolnir doesn't grant Thor his senses, why is that relevant? Those are his inherent abilities, so they are relevant.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm grossly overselling Thor by posting his feats? Lol, oops my bad.

Let me just agree with whatever you say. I wouldn't want to make you feel bad for being misinformed about Thor's capabilities.

Mjolnir doesn't grant Thor his senses, why is that relevant? Those are his inherent abilities, so they are relevant.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mysterio has fooled the likes of Dr Strange too.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11135/111355351/6937424-illusion-%20hides%20his%20essence%20from%20doctor%20strange.%202%20%20%28doctor%20doom%20and%20the%20masters%20of%20evil%29.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11135/111355351/6937423-illusion-%20hides%20his%20essence%20from%20doctor%20strange.%20%20%28doctor%20doom%20and%20the%20masters%20of%20evil%29.jpg

More importantly, he has already fooled Unworthy Thor.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Fixed links for ya:

1. https://tinyurl.com/ybfc4ayb

2. https://tinyurl.com/y89292q8

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah. People think 'oh, Thor will just zap Mysterio' when actually, he'll only THINK he's summoned lightning.

Dr. Strange was pushing the limits of his illusions and he wasn't even aware they were in a fight. If Thor is buying groceries, and Mysterio is trying to hide from him, that might be one thing.

Thor is an elemental, he can sense a Storm innately. He could fool Thor they were hit by a lighting blast, but how would he fool Thor that he summoned a lightning blast?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You want to do a thread using thor senses versus logan/parker/matt?

Not even close based on the feats I've seen.

Thor can hear prayers a Universe away, and his teleporation/summoning Storms relies on picturing/sensoring locations in his minds-eye. His senses are far superior to Logan's and Spider-Man unless I missed something?

Obviously, Logan is a much better tracker when it comes to his nose, and Spider-Man has a spider-sense but that's not what we're arguing. We're talking about his innate weather seasons, which are on a far larger scale.

Originally posted by abhilegend

1. Mysterio doesn't get access to an unlimited amount of prep and technology before in a random encounter Thor isn't expecting.

2. I'm not arguing Mysterio cannot make illusions that can deceive Thor visually. Read the conversation and stop moving the goal post.

3. I'm arguing that he has no way to trick Thor that he has summoned a lightning bolt when he hasn't etc.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Dr. Strange was pushing the limits of his illusions and he wasn't even aware they were in a fight. If Thor is buying groceries, and Mysterio is trying to hide from him, that might be one thing.

Thor is an elemental, he can sense a Storm innately. He could fool Thor they were hit by a lighting blast, but how would he fool Thor that he summoned a lightning blast?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1. Mysterio doesn't get access to an unlimited amount of prep and technology before in a random encounter Thor isn't expecting.

2. I'm not arguing Mysterio cannot make illusions that can deceive Thor visually. Read the conversation and stop moving the goal post.

3. I'm arguing that he has no way to trick Thor that he hasn't summoned a lightning bolt when he hasn't etc.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You want to match sensory feats from Dr Strange to a retard like Thor? Oh boy.
So in essence Mysterio can't fool Thor when he has already done it and has fooled Dr Strange who is far superior in terms of detecting illusions than Thor.

If this strange guy has all this magic, how come he isn't sensing us?

It's close. I can feel him working at the edges of my illusion. And the scary thing is, he's not even trying.

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11135/111355351/6937424-illusion-%20hides%20his%20essence%20from%20doctor%20strange.%202%20%20%28doctor%20doom%20and%20the%20masters%20of%20evil%29.jpg

Read the scan. Dr. Strange wasn't even trying. All Mysterio was doing was hiding them from his awareness, and even that was being strained.

This is a battle zone, aka a fight:

Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character's homeworld knows. For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he's Clark Kent is not.

Thor knows he's fighting the Sinister Six, he isn't getting spied on while he's grocery shopping.

Also, this has nothing to do with visual illusions. The argument was that Thor can easily clear the field with his weather powers. The counter-argument was that Mysterio can fake the weather attack, which is illogical. It's like tricking Superman into thinking he used heat vision, or Swamp Thing attacked with the Green.

That's not illusions, that's mind control because Thor's an elemental. The weather is an extension of Thor:

Fooling Thor he used an attack involving weather would involve controlling his mind, not creating an illusion.

AGAIN: Mysterio can, especially with prep, fool Thor with visual illusions like that the SS were hit with lightning when they were not. He cannot trick Thor into thinking he used lightning already when he hasn't. That's called telepathy, aka Maxwell Lord, or Professor Xavier.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
In regards to what? He’s never fooled anyone with better senses than Thor, when it comes to storms.

Yup. Also hearing:
https://ibb.co/cFLfvfj
https://ibb.co/tKz9Gs4
https://ibb.co/DYr5JFB

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/12/126716/4480885-thor_llamado_anciano_1.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/12/126716/4480886-thor_llamado_anciano_2.jpg

And eyesight:
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/12/126716/4480890-thor_vision_4.jpg

In God of Thunder, he had a few random sensory feats, like seeing across planetary level distances etc. It's kind of a necessary proxy, if you're a being that fights across space without a sensory enhancer like a GL ring.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If this strange guy has all this magic, how come he isn't sensing us?

It's close. I can feel him working at the edges of my illusion. [b]And the scary thing is, he's not even trying.

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11135/111355351/6937424-illusion-%20hides%20his%20essence%20from%20doctor%20strange.%202%20%20%28doctor%20doom%20and%20the%20masters%20of%20evil%29.jpg

Read the scan. Dr. Strange wasn't even trying. All Mysterio was doing was hiding them from his awareness, and even that was being strained.

But in the end, he couldn't detect the illusion.

And Dr Strange is far better suited to detect illusions than Thor is.

This is a battle zone, aka a fight:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t461496.html

Thor knows he's fighting the Sinister Six, he isn't getting spied on while he's grocery shopping.

Also, this has nothing to do with visual illusions. The argument was that Thor can easily clear the field with his weather powers. The counter-argument was that Mysterio can fake the weather attack, which is illogical. It's like tricking Superman into thinking he used heat vision, or Swamp Thing attacked with the Green.

That's not illusions, that's mind control because Thor's an elemental. The weather is an extension of Thor:

Fooling Thor he used an attack involving weather would involve controlling his mind, not creating an illusion.

AGAIN: Mysterio can, especially with prep, fool Thor with visual illusions like that the SS were hit with lightning when they were not. He cannot trick Thor into thinking he used lightning already when he hasn't. That's called telepathy, aka Maxwell Lord, or Professor Xavier. [/B]

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not even close based on the feats I've seen.

Thor can hear prayers a Universe away, and his teleporation/summoning Storms relies on picturing/sensoring locations in his minds-eye. His senses are far superior to Logan's and Spider-Man unless I missed something?

Obviously, Logan is a much better tracker when it comes to his nose, and Spider-Man has a spider-sense but that's not what we're arguing. We're talking about his innate weather seasons, which are on a far larger scale.

Your post is so random..thor can hear prayers. Ok and? How does controlling weather correlate to detecting illusions. But i read the rest of your post and see that you're using high end thor so moving on.