Strength increasing ability.

if galan and pr's minds were both unchanged by the antisuperman advocates, then they'd just cry about galan and pr having some kind of bias towards them. theyd be even more bitter about this crap then they already are.

Can't call people who disagree with you all anti anything. Maybe YOURE wrong. Its like me calling everyone who disagrees with me (or anyone else that supports Hulk) anti Hulk and there is sure a hell of a lot of you all that disagrees with anything involving Hulk opinions. Stop!!! Forums are built for debating.

Exactly.

Except this isn't a debate, just like it isn't a debate what Parker's birthname is.

Should be easy for people to prove, no?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The Presence

😏

Presence is already infinitely stronger than TOAA at base strength

I don't think increasing strength for him is really fair

Originally posted by -K-M-
Maul (Wildstorm)

thank you for bringing him up 👆

Originally posted by carver9
Can't call people who disagree with you all anti anything. Maybe YOURE wrong. Its like me calling everyone who disagrees with me (or anyone else that supports Hulk) anti Hulk and there is sure a hell of a lot of you all that disagrees with anything involving Hulk opinions. Stop!!! Forums are built for debating.

strangemmm

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Everyone gets triggered, right? I gave loads of examples in this thread of characters who can alter their strength levels.

Only one poster mentioned Superman.

And now, look at where we are. Even you jumped in.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
i didnt even mention you by name yet you instantly went on the defensive.

strangemmm

Not saying you mentioned anyone. My post wasn't about me, its about all. Lol... when I make post like this, its to defend a majority, not myself.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't mind it a bit. It's not really a secret, I've acknowledged it publicly at least a couple of times now I believe and I tell pretty much everyone I PM about it. The topic wasn't the source of my confusion, it was your response. Good or bad, I think you might be the only person who's demonstrated having any specific opinion at all about me PMing people with scans and points to help support their arguments as well as undermine the arguments of their opponents... I legitimately don't understand why anyone would bother to even form an opinion about such a thing. Just seems like worrying about who the neighbor's f*cking

I wasn't aware of this but imo it's cowardice on your part.

If the argument doesn't go in your favor you can easily turn tail without anyone the wiser.

Cut Old Man Goober some slack.

If someone needs some spanking, it's BazieAlberto who is copying&pasting entire posts, without giving the credit to their authors or websites he took them from.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
YouTube video

Essentially.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait, what? Pizza feels, weird? I don't know if there's a way to explain this but...

But nothing. I hate it. I also hate cheese. Cheese can **** off. And anything tomato-based.

Originally posted by Galan007

vin

Pick someone.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Maybe Pr had some bad pizza as a kid and now there's some deep trauma preventing him from tasting it again.

It's my sad and harrowing origin story.

Originally posted by carver9
Can't call people who disagree with you all anti anything. Maybe YOURE wrong. Its like me calling everyone who disagrees with me (or anyone else that supports Hulk) anti Hulk and there is sure a hell of a lot of you all that disagrees with anything involving Hulk opinions. Stop!!! Forums are built for debating.

Kind of rich coming from someone that was one of the loudest voices saying that Superman didn't have superspeed back in the day. IIRC you said the same thing about Wonder Woman too, even when the comics, you know, the actual thing we take as proof above all others, said otherwise.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Essentially.

But nothing. I hate it. I also hate cheese. Cheese can **** off. And anything tomato-based.

Pick someone.

It's my sad and harrowing origin story.

Kind of rich coming from someone that was one of the loudest voices saying that Superman didn't have superspeed back in the day. IIRC you said the same thing about Wonder Woman too, even when the comics, you know, the actual thing we take as proof above all others, said otherwise.

Not liking cheese is one of the most unnatural things I've heard of. You should probably give it another try.

Wait, i didn't say Superman didn't have super speed. What I did say is, he isnt untouchable. I KNEW you was reading my arguments wrong. Always had that gut feeling.

Originally posted by carver9
Not liking cheese is one of the most unnatural things I've heard of. You should probably give it another try.

Wait, i didn't say Superman didn't have super speed. What I did say is, he isnt untouchable. I KNEW you was reading my arguments wrong. Always had that gut feeling.

Who has better combat speed, Surfer or Superman?

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer has traveled so fast that he went back in time...

Combat speed? Both are terrible.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm saying their combat speed sucks because 98 to 99% of the time, they are either getting slapped to sleep by people who combat speed pales in comparison to people like Wolverine whereas you're using the 2 percent advantage............

.....That completely ignores what we see on panel and on panel, Superman combat speed (along with Gladiator, Hyperion, etc...) sucks.

Originally posted by carver9

What I'm saying doesn't just apply to Superman, it applies to Gladiator and Hyperion as well. They can clean a house near instantly but their combat speed, Lord help them.

Originally posted by carver9
Scans of Superman using combat speed consistently during battle.

I can go on?

Originally posted by carver9
Not liking cheese is one of the most unnatural things I've heard of. You should probably give it another try.

Wait, i didn't say Superman didn't have super speed. What I did say is, he isnt untouchable. I KNEW you was reading my arguments wrong. Always had that gut feeling.

Cheese is shit.

That presumes that I ever said that Superman was untouchable, when I have not. Try again.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Who has better combat speed, Surfer or Superman?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Ha.

Say goodbye to your prostate, if you indeed hate everything tomato-based 😛

Superman can be untouchable though, depending on who is trying to hit him.

Drink your tomato juice, young one.

Before you end up like Pr.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Say goodbye to your prostate, if you indeed hate everything tomato-based 😛

I can live without it I'm sure.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Superman can be untouchable though, depending on who is trying to hit him.

Sure, he can be untouchable. But in most fights, it's a conscious decision he has to make, and he usually doesn't.