Worthy Cap vs Stepphenwolf

Started by KingD195 pages
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
He tried that with thanos. Didn't work so well

Except Thanos is an insanely skilled warrior with matching speed/agility/etc... He was bobbing and weaving around Hulk, matching Cap in his feints, blocks, dodges, etc... He was skilled enough to jab him in the leg with his blade from a locked position. And could spin his sword fast enough to reflect energy. He's in a completely different league from Steph who is just big and strong and uses nothing but wide swings and trying to overpower whoever he fights.

Stepp still was skilled enough to clown wonder woman, who is also insanely fast and skilled

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Stepp still was skilled enough to clown wonder woman, who is also insanely fast and skilled

You mean when he was so much stronger he just bullied her? Because that's what he did. He never outskilled or outsped her. He'd do stuff like hit her so hard that even though she's blocking with her shield, she got sent flying. I'll admit for such a big slow guy, his reflexes were pretty amazing, but his fighting style was evade/tank, leading into him overpowering you. He did it to everyone but Superman.

Thanos on the other hand showed his skill as well as his strength like vs Hulk and Cap where not only did he physically dominate them, he would use tactics and actual moves and technique.

Originally posted by KingD19
You mean when he was so much stronger he just bullied her?

Yeah, there was no ‘skill’ there, sorry.
He was just a big strong dude who was bulldozing through shit.

And cap is supposed to stop that?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
And cap is supposed to stop that?

Pretty much

Originally posted by tkitna
Pretty much

^^^Yeah.
Considering Cap was already doing this...

...to a way bigger stronger dude than Step before he got Thor’s hammer, then WITH Thor’s hammer...

...he will straight up WRECK Step, who doesn’t hold a candle to any incarnation (Stones/no Stones/some Stones) of Thanos.

Yeah, keep in mind Thanos is simply insane. Thor, Iron Man and Cap couldn't touch him at first, and he's fast enough to block repulsors, catch Stormbreaker before it reaches Thor, and most impressively, catch Cap's arm when he summons Mjolnir since he can't actually pick the hammer up. And even after Cap's entire shield/Mjolnir combo, Thanos almost immediately overwhelms him with skills, speed, and strength. Steph just isn't that good of a fighter, and is a lot slower. Shield+Mjolnir+Lightning blasts = a bad time for Apoc-Lite.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^Yeah.
Considering Cap was already doing this...

...to a way bigger stronger dude than Step before he got Thor’s hammer, then WITH Thor’s hammer...

...he will straight up WRECK Step, who doesn’t hold a candle to any incarnation (Stones/no Stones/some Stones) of Thanos.

That's not a good feat. Cap is holding each Thanos finger with his entire two hands. Individual Finger strength against hand, wrist, and arm strength.

Also it can be seen as a bad showing for Thanos since we know Caps strength level.

Originally posted by tkitna
Pretty much

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
He tried that with thanos. Didn't work so well

Well Thanos is more powerful than Steppenwolf so there's that. Even not taking that into consideration, Steppy is is not getting through his shield when he has problems cutting apart simple rock, can't cut into the Knightcrawler to do serious damage and does only minimal damage to cyborg.

Step is definitely going to knock Cap for a loop when he strikes the shield. Cap definitely hits step more times than the other way around. But step only needs one good hit. Chances are Step gets that hit considering his superhuman speed (caught arrows at point blank range and scaled to WW)

Cap is definitely going to knock Step for a loop when he strikes w. the Hammer. Cap definitely hits step more times than the other way around, and Cap only needs one good hit regardless. Chances are Cap gets that hit quickly, considering his superhuman speed (When Captain America went for a relaxed run around Washington DC in Captain America: The Winter Soldier Sam remarks that he "ran 13 miles in 30 minutes" that equates to a 26 mile an hour relaxed running speed, w. reflexes and reaction time to match.)

Originally posted by h1a8
That's not a good feat.
Originally posted by h1a8
Step is definitely going to knock Cap for a loop when he strikes the shield. Cap definitely hits step more times than the other way around. But step only needs one good hit. Chances are Step gets that hit considering his superhuman speed (caught arrows at point blank range and scaled to WW)

Post the vid w/timestamp where WW was shown using superspeed during her fight with SW.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Post the vid w/timestamp where WW was shown using superspeed during her fight with SW.

I gave two arguments to his superhuman speed. Attacking one doesn't destroy the argument itself. You have to attack both.

Cap has reacted to bullets on multiple occasions, which are faster than arrows. And you still haven't shown when Diana actually used her speed in combat against Stepp, and the reason why is encase she didn't. Scaling to someone who is fighting at normal speed means nothing.

Originally posted by KingD19
Cap has reacted to bullets on multiple occasions, which are faster than arrows. And you still haven't shown when Diana actually used her speed in combat against Stepp, and the reason why is encase she didn't. Scaling to someone who is fighting at normal speed means nothing.

She tried her best to beat him but couldnt, so its only logical to assume he could handle her speed.

In any case SW was leaping around Hulk style, so he has displayed better speed/agility than Cap.

As for who wins, IF Cap has Thors strength, then he wins. Otherwise SW stomps.

She couldn't beat him because he was just stronger than her. He bats her across a room through her shield at one point. And him Hulk jumping is because he's so strong. It has nothing to do with his speed.

him Hulk jumping is because he's so strong. It has nothing to do with his speed.

Yeah, no shit! 😛