Originally posted by Stoic
I've already done that. Pretty pictures aren't the only things that are needed as proof. I also suggested that you read Planet Hulk through to the Heart of the Monster. Will you? Doubtful.
I read those. None of his feats suggest Hulk can hold a black hole, not even HOTM. None of them show that Hulk can break those chains.
HOTM can bench press the Earth though and lift 200 quintillion tons, not planet Hulk though.
Originally posted by DiesldudeYEAH but in that way you subtract the forcefield degrading the chains with heat, the fact that it’s probably negating magnetic/gravity forces, and the ship’s propulsion is doing the moving. The chains are simply place holders.
What happened to your tensile argument? Debunked?But you're still pulling the planet. The load of pulling a planet is still same. You have chains around a 500lb dumbell and you pull it up to your second floor balcony, will the chains have a lighter load if you put the dumbell in a box and try to pull it up? How will putting a forcefield around a star lessen it's weight?
You wanted an explanation I gave you one way of doing it. In comics they could have easily wrapped the chains around the stars and pulled.
The fact of the matter is they can pull steller mass FTL and withstand heat of blue stars.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
YEAH but in that way you subtract the forcefield degrading the chains with heat, the fact that it’s probably negating magnetic/gravity forces, and the ship’s propulsion is doing the moving. The chains are simply place holders.
So what was that tensile strength you were speaking about?
Will that 50lb dumbbell get lighter if you put it in a box?
Originally posted by Diesldude
So what was that tensile strength you were speaking about?Will that 50lb dumbbell get lighter if you put it in a box?
is it the strength of the chains or or the devices around it that did the work. Superman himself did the work needed to dispute the claims of them being unbreakable.
they were in the process but how much of the work did they do. It's never explained in complete process so we don't know, it's all speculation
It's largely unquantifiable.
Even if it was calculated the weight of a star, you'd still need to calculate the gravitational force it puts out to find the tensile strength of the chains to be able to haul starts between galaxies.
Once you have this number you can ballpark the level of force it took Superman to actually break these chains. Ballpark, since even finding the tensile strength to haul stars does not give the upper limit of said chains to be broken.
It's hard to put an actual number to it.
"Stellar mass" has a large range depending on the stellar entity.
Lobo has a stellar mass feat...and that mass was actively resisting him, willful, which regular stars cannot do.
Can we say Lobo can do the same feat as Superman here? We can SAY it, but without real numbers, we cannot prove it.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
is it the strength of the chains or or the devices around it that did the work. Superman himself did the work needed to dispute the claims of them being unbreakable.
Superman did what these powerful starships and the weight of steller mass could not, that is break the chains.
have you ever towed anything?
Or exercised at the gym.
The pull down exercise machines, can you replace the cable with yarn? Why not?
Your muscles are doing all the work of pulling right so the strenght of the cables shouldn’t matter right?
Originally posted by h1a8
I read those. None of his feats suggest Hulk can hold a black hole, not even HOTM. None of them show that Hulk can break those chains.HOTM can bench press the Earth though and lift 200 quintillion tons, not planet Hulk though.
Who held a black hole? The chains ft doesnt count.
Originally posted by SasuOnahe’ll need to be stronger by a lot, faster, smarter by a lot and so much more just to be on Superman’s level.
I hate Superman's feats a lot of them are exposition and have little substance
Post something good like him pulling the earth
As soon as Marvel gives Hulk the ability to fly its over
Originally posted by Diesldude
Breaking Chains?Hulk Failed. 😂
Wrong version, and a hypocritical post as well. You know how you get when people post your favorite getting handled out of context? Well you’re doing that right now.
Originally posted by h1a8
I read those. None of his feats suggest Hulk can hold a black hole, not even HOTM. None of them show that Hulk can break those chains.HOTM can bench press the Earth though and lift 200 quintillion tons, not planet Hulk though.
No you didn’t, or we wouldn’t be having a circular argument. Or, you did, and decided to ignore what was clearly written.
Originally posted by Stoic
Wrong version, and a hypocritical post as well. You know how you get when people post your favorite getting handled out of context? Well you’re doing that right now.No you didn’t, or we wouldn’t be having a circular argument. Or, you did, and decided to ignore what was clearly written.
If this was Superman, you know certain couple of posters would have paraded this scan all over kmc.
Originally posted by Stoic
Wrong version, and a hypocritical post as well. You know how you get when people post your favorite getting handled out of context? Well you’re doing that right now.No you didn’t, or we wouldn’t be having a circular argument. Or, you did, and decided to ignore what was clearly written.
Again what feats by Hulk prove that he can achieve 1. or 4.?
Everyone here has read planet Hulk (tectonic plate feat) and HOTM (destroying planet from a distance).