Worldbreaker Hulk vs. The Superman Trials

@diesl

YEAH I'm not completely taking the chains durability away just saying that because of other factors in play on top of unknown factors makes it unquantifiable. The exercise machine could be mad with thick ropes that could be cut by an axe. There's also usually a wheel and a holding mechanism involved that makes it so you aren't fighting against any other forces but the weight of the object pulled. In this case is the star being pulled or is it the facilitating apparatus? How heavy is the facilitating apparatus?

Originally posted by h1a8
Again what feats by Hulk prove that he can achieve 1. or 4.?
Everyone here has read planet Hulk (tectonic plate feat) and HOTM (destroying planet from a distance).

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Dark Dimension feat is questionable as both gravity and matter are weaker there (stars can't form in dark dimension due to the same reason).

Originally posted by cdtm
1. Hold a miniature black hole:

😂

2. Lift 200 quintillion tons:

😂 😆

3. Bench press the weight of the Earth:

Not a chance.

4. Break the Kerenthium chains:

😂 😆 😂

5.Break the Dominus alternate realities:

Does he know Tarquism Vo? Then no.

How goes this? Discuss.

It goes about as well as Hank Pym's marriage.

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Originally posted by Adam Grimes
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Another poster already proved that the beings that govern the Dark Dimension add gravity to their realms. You know this because in fetching that particular scan, you were in the very thread that proved it. Pretty low of you to pretend as if that was a one sided discussion.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
@diesl

YEAH I'm not completely taking the chains durability away just saying that because of other factors in play on top of unknown factors makes it unquantifiable. The exercise machine could be mad with thick ropes that could be cut by an axe. There's also usually a wheel and a holding mechanism involved that makes it so you aren't fighting against any other forces but the weight of the object pulled. In this case is the star being pulled or is it the facilitating apparatus? How heavy is the facilitating apparatus?

Originally posted by carver9
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You didn't address my post.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's quantifiable due to writer's intent. The writer intended the chains to physically be able to pull stars across galaxies in a reasonable amount of time. That was the point in getting the audience to believe that they were that durable (to add suspense on whether Superman would be able to break them).

Based on?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
@diesl

YEAH I'm not completely taking the chains durability away just saying that because of other factors in play on top of unknown factors makes it unquantifiable. The exercise machine could be mad with thick ropes that could be cut by an axe. There's also usually a wheel and a holding mechanism involved that makes it so you aren't fighting against any other forces but the weight of the object pulled. In this case is the star being pulled or is it the facilitating apparatus? How heavy is the facilitating apparatus?

You got 6 people on one side pulling at a force of 200 pounds each and opposite them you have 6 people also pulling at a force of 200 pounds each. The rope doesn’t snap. This means that the rope can handle at least 2400 pounds.

It doesn’t matter who is towing it, ships,ind controllled Superboy Prime, of God himself the chains can withstand the pull and the weight of a star * trillions because that star needs to be pulled FTL. This is quantifiable.

Originally posted by Diesldude
If this was Superman, you know certain couple of posters would have paraded this scan all over kmc.

Two wrongs don't make a right. No other persona of the Hulk has been able to fully access the source of their power like the Green Scar, and now TOBA. H1 will ignore this of course.

Originally posted by Diesldude
You got 6 people on one side pulling at a force of 200 pounds each and opposite them you have 6 people also pulling at a force of 200 pounds each. The rope doesn’t snap. This means that the rope can handle at least 2400 pounds.

It doesn’t matter who is towing it, ships,ind controllled Superboy Prime, of God himself the chains can withstand the pull and the weight of a star * trillions because that star needs to be pulled FTL. This is quantifiable.

Narration states what the chain can tow. Is it unbreakable? No, because it was broken. Can another character break it outside of Superman? Yes, because he proved that it wasn't unbreakable.

Originally posted by Stoic
Narration states what the chain can tow. Is it unbreakable? No, because it was broken. Can another character break it outside of Superman? Yes, because he proved that it wasn't unbreakable.

So if a character doesn't show infinite strength, even if narration states it, then we ignore it?

Originally posted by h1a8
You didn't address my post.

The Black Hole was contained. Superman stopped it from releasing.

Originally posted by carver9
The Black Hole was contained. Superman stopped it from releasing.

Doesn't mean it weighs any less.

If I put you in a box and lift you....just because you're contained doesn't mean the box is lighter.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So if a character doesn't show infinite strength, even if narration states it, then we ignore it?

Was there anything in those stories that required infinite strength? Do we ignore Banner's character in that he didn't blatantly take lives in that era? Context is very important, because it was never about Banner lacking power, it was about him using what he needed. The idea of having full access to the source of his powers drove him to madness, as seen prior to Doom performing brain surgery on him to remove that knowledge.

Originally posted by Stoic
Another poster already proved that the beings that govern the Dark Dimension add gravity to their realms. You know this because in fetching that particular scan, you were in the very thread that proved it. Pretty low of you to pretend as if that was a one sided discussion.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What does this mean? You have proof which contradicts this?

You were in the very discussion Abhi, and when proof was presented you became silent. Perhaps Hulkster can provide the proof that the beings that govern their sectors of the Dark Dimension also create gravity to the worlds that they create? I clearly remember you being wrong.

Originally posted by Stoic
Was there anything in those stories that required infinite strength? Do we ignore Banner's character in that he didn't blatantly take lives in that era? Context is very important, because it was never about Banner lacking power, it was about him using what he needed. The idea of having full access to the source of his powers drove him to madness, as seen prior to Doom performing brain surgery on him to remove that knowledge.

I'm just asking if you're being fair and unbiased.

But if he's never shown infinite strength, that's fair enough.

Originally posted by carver9
The Black Hole was contained. Superman stopped it from releasing.

Originally posted by h1a8
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It released in his hand AFTER Superman grabbed it. Superman's hand shielded the effects of it from the surroundings.

It being contained shouldn't affect its mass either.