Originally posted by Surtur
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
Originally posted by Silent Master
The far-left only believe in innocent until proven guilty when it's their side being accused.
I made no such claim otherwise, this couple is indeed innocent of the crimes they're accused until found guilty in court. But you two had to try.
Originally posted by Surtur
Based on everything you know at the present time, if it was up to you to decide their legal fate what would you do?
You're talking about feelings again; that's silly. I wouldn't, let all the facts come out first and let a jury decide. That's how it needs to be. Has this been put forth in front of a grand jury already?
Originally posted by Surtur
I'm just curious what you'd do based on the facts you know.
I told you last page that I haven't really followed this story, so I'd do nothing based on knowing very little. Wouldn't want to condemn innocent people if they're innocent, nor would I want to let criminals go due to lack of facts.
Originally posted by Robtard
I told you last page that I haven't really followed this story, so I'd do nothing based on knowing very little. Wouldn't want to condemn innocent people if they're innocent, nor would I want to let criminals go due to lack of facts.
You claim to have a legendary memory and I've told you their claims before.
Assuming the prosecutors can't prove or disprove their version of events what do you think should be done?
Originally posted by Surtur
You claim to have a legendary memory and I've told you their claims before.Assuming the prosecutors can't prove or disprove their version of events what do you think should be done?
They say one thing and other people say another. I don't know who is telling the truth here, as I wasn't there. This isn't hard to understand, Surt.
It's ultimately up to the prosecution to prove they're guilty, we just went over that they're innocent until proven guilty on this very page. If the prosecution can't do that, they're likely going to be found innocent if this ever ends up in court.
Though it will be a clown-trial as the governor has already preemptively said he'd pardon them without knowing all the facts. Precedent set.
Originally posted by Robtard
They say one thing and other people say another. I don't know who is telling the truth here, as I wasn't there. This isn't hard to understand, Surt.It's ultimately up to the prosecution to prove they're guilty, we just went over that they're innocent until proven guilty on this very page. If the prosecution can't do that, they're likely going to be found innocent if this ever ends up in court.
Though it will be a clown-trial as the governor has already preemptively said he'd pardon them without knowing all the facts. Precedent set.
Will you at least agree that if it comes down to a mere "he said/she said" they should not be punished?
Originally posted by Surtur
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
Don't you know by now, Surt, that it only applies to people on the left who're charged with a crime? Right-wingers and/or people who're simply defending their own damn property or lives are guilty until proven innocent in the eyes of leftists.
Originally posted by Robtard
Not really followed this story closely. Has video or camera proof been shown that these two were threatened with guns prior to them threatening people with their guns?
Really depends on the state. If it has a castle doctrine and/or they have a no trespassing sign posted anywhere, they can warn once or twice and then shoot to kill very generously if there is even a mild case to be made about the angry mob being an angry mob. In this case, it was definitely and angry mob being an angry mob.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine#State-by-state_positions_in_the_United_States
Most states have them. Thankfully.
And this couple is from Missouri. There's no legal justification to do anything at all against the couple and any judge or prosecutor who does should get their ass thrown in jail for gross corruption. No exception at all. That's what the outrage is about.
What should have happened is the couple should have started shooting every single one of them in the brain. Every single one. Only those that were on their property.
Get this: they'd be legally justified in doing so and they would get off 100% free from charges.
Don't fall for the circus clown buffoonery going on related to their case. They will definitely get cleared. It's very much on the books in Missouri. They need to escalate until any judges and prosecutors involved in this situation are severely punished including jail time.
Missouri recognizes the "castle doctrine" and allows residents to use force against intruders, without the duty to retreat, based on the notion that your home is your "castle." This legal doctrine assumes that if an invader disrupts the sanctity of your home, they intend to do you harm and therefore you should be able to repel their advances.Missouri's law is more extensive than the law in other states because it permits property owners to use the amount of force reasonably perceived as necessary, including deadly force.
However, case law suggests it does not go so far as permitting the use of deadly force to merely protect property. In 2016, the Missouri Court of Appeals for the Eastern District held in State v. Whipple that deadly force under the castle doctrine can only be used when you reasonably believe such force is necessary to protect yourself or someone else from "the use or imminent use of unlawful force."
https://statelaws.findlaw.com/missouri-law/missouri-self-defense-laws.html