Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The Hulk represents the physical manifestation of Bruce Banner's anger. Bruce never likes to get angry and avoids confrontation. The concept of the Hulk is that within every human being is destructive power that if left unchecked could cause massive carnage, damage and destruction. That's a literal character trait of human beings. Gamma radiation is nothing more than how Banner became the Hulk, but the Hulk was always there, so to speak. Contrast that with Superman who is an alien from another world who has to adapt to humankind despite his great powers and abilities.
You asked which concept makes more sense.
Gamma rays turning a man in a great big monster when he gets mad doesn't really make sense. But we accept it because it's comics.
Originally posted by -Pr-
You asked which concept makes more sense.Gamma rays turning a man in a great big monster when he gets mad doesn't really make sense. But we accept it because it's comics.
and an alien that looks exactly like a human being coming from a dying planet makes even less sense. Conceptually, the Hulk makes more sense. Always did. You're showing bias
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The Hulk represents the physical manifestation of Bruce Banner's anger. Bruce never likes to get angry and avoids confrontation. The concept of the Hulk is that within every human being is destructive power that if left unchecked could cause massive carnage, damage and destruction. That's a literal character trait of human beings. Gamma radiation is nothing more than how Banner became the Hulk, but the Hulk was always there, so to speak. Contrast that with Superman who is an alien from another world who has to adapt to humankind despite his great powers and abilities.
Yeah, according to Freud and the concept of ego, id and superego. That's turns Hulk interesting, but based in powerset Superman makes sense than Hulk.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
and an alien that looks exactly like a human being coming from a dying planet makes even less sense. Conceptually, the Hulk makes more sense. Always did. You're showing bias
You have this strange idea that we are the normal ones. Why is that?
For all we know, other life forms finds us strange with our 10 fingers, toes, and one head.
Some of Marvel's characters are literally based on the human condition. That's the very concept of the X-Men universe in Marvel. They took the race argument and flippednit on its head. The Hulk is legit based on the emotional aspect of the human condition. It's practically based on Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde which was also centered around the human condition of a split personality. That's the Hulk in a nutshell. Superman is a literal alien immigrant from another planet who is born with miraculous powers that manifest once he hits puberty. His story has to do with adapting to a people that aren't your own than it does saving the city or the world from any and all threats. The Hulk's story is different. Bruce Banner gets pissed off by someone, turns into the Hulk, trashes whoever made him angry, and then reverts back to normal. His whole story is about controlling that anger. The concept for each character, when written correctly, dictates the type of story that the writers tell.
REALISTICALLY, speaking, Superman's story doesn't make more realistic sense than the Hulk's, because realistically speaking, no alien has ever come to this planet from another planet that was on the verge of destruction. Realistically speaking, anyone who gets exposed to the sun will not have anything happen to them but their skin will gets darker depending on how long their in it combined with the temperature. Realistically speaking, when a person or a people get angry enough at whomever or whatever is threatening their well-being, they will get angry and fight back. Look no further than the protesting and riots that took place a couple of months ago. Black people were tired of unfair treatment at the hands of law enforcement officers, got angry, and tore up their cities as an act of fighting back and a release of the frustration of constantly being treated like their lives don't matter. That's WAY more realistic than the story of Superman. That's CLEARLY non-debatable. period
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And he turns into the Hulk based on magic, because even Marvel realised how nonsensical his powers are on a scientific basis 😂
LMAO
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Realistically speaking, no one got superpowers from a gamma bomb
EXCEPT, that's not the point, because realistically speaking, aliens don't exist. Gamma bomb or not, if someone keeps disrespecting you and one day picks a fight with you, you will eventually fight back. I said it before that the transformation into the Hulk is the physical manifestation of Bruce's anger. He's still Banner but it's a different personality, so to speak. Obviously, if Banner were a real human being, he wouldn't transform into an 8 foot tall, 680 pound mass of muscle and beat down whoever's bullying him, but he would at some point fight back. The Hulk's story is rooted in human nature. FACT
has anyone ever intentionally pissed you off to the point where you want to beat them up so they would stop bothering you? Bruce Banner becomes the Hulk when that happens. Superman, adversely, is always Superman. There is never a point in Superman's story where he isn't. There is never a moment where Superman, other than the use of magic or some other action that strips him of his powers and abilities, is not Superman. Clark Kent is a disguise that Superman wears to blend in with humanity.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Some of Marvel's characters are literally based on the human condition. That's the very concept of the X-Men universe in Marvel. They took the race argument and flippednit on its head. The Hulk is legit based on the emotional aspect of the human condition. It's practically based on Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde which was also centered around the human condition of a split personality. That's the Hulk in a nutshell. Superman is a literal alien immigrant from another planet who is born with miraculous powers that manifest once he hits puberty. His story has to do with adapting to a people that aren't your own than it does saving the city or the world from any and all threats. The Hulk's story is different. Bruce Banner gets pissed off by someone, turns into the Hulk, trashes whoever made him angry, and then reverts back to normal. His whole story is about controlling that anger. The concept for each character, when written correctly, dictates the type of story that the writers tell.
Okay? That has nothing to do with the question you asked, though. Does it?
Originally posted by -Pr-
Okay? That has nothing to do with the question you asked, though. Does it?
I said above i wasn't talking about powers, When talking about the core of a character, we're talking about the psychological, mental, emotional, and philosophical makeup of a character. Have you ever read Batman: Hush? Batman says of Superman, and I quote:
"If Clark wanted to, he could use his superspeed and squish me into the cement. But I know how he thinks. Even more than Kryptonite, he's got one big weakness. Deep down, he's a good person at heart, and deep down, I'm not."
That's PART of the core of Superman. Not just his powers and abilities, but his CHARACTER.
Now let's look at what Rick Jones said about the Hulk during World War Hulk:
"A lot's happened since you've been away. Tony and Reed...they kind of screwed things up. I wish you'd been here before. You may go nuts, but nine times out of ten, you seem to hit whoever needs hitting, and those guys sure needed it."
I've said it so many times in our dialogue that that's how the Hulk functions. Those who make him angry he trashes. That's the core of these respective characters.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I said above i wasn't talking about powers, When talking about the core of a character, we're talking about the psychological, mental, emotional, and philosophical makeup of a character. Have you ever read Batman: Hush? Batman says of Superman, and I quote:
"If Clark wanted to, he could use his superspeed and squish me into the cement. But I know how he thinks. Even more than Kryptonite, he's got one big weakness. Deep down, he's a good person at heart, and deep down, I'm not."That's PART of the core of Superman. Not just his powers and abilities, but his CHARACTER.
Now let's look at what Rick Jones said about the Hulk during World War Hulk:
"A lot's happened since you've been away. Tony and Reed...they kind of screwed things up. I wish you'd been here before. You may go nuts, but nine times out of ten, you seem to hit whoever needs hitting, and those guys sure needed it."
I've said it so many times in our dialogue that that's how the Hulk functions. Those who make him angry he trashes. That's the core of these respective characters.
You really should have been clearer in the OP, then. But okay.
So your question is which one has a more realistic personality?