Does Cap still win a feat war against Batman?

Batman bench presses more than Cap, explicitly on panel.

Eat it, Stilt.

Originally posted by Stoic
I was asking DS what about his perspective. But now that you mentioned this, and fully acknowledge that reaction speeds, and travel speeds are different, I'm hoping that in the future when someone states that when a particular green brute was able to nail a speedster square on the jaw to disrupt an attempted speed blitz, that your position doesn't suddenly change.

Batman not only reacted, but leapt from point A to point B (a short distance, but still) faster than those HV beams. In a thread that asks for high-end feats, that is surely a good contender.

Especially as he is only 'peak human'.

The only people who care about the designations and not feats are the ones trying to discredit Batman and ignore his feats while accepting Cap's.

The comics/writers don't.

Well ok. We can do this.

Strength (lifting/striking)
Speed (reflex/travel)
Durability
Stamina

Let's stack them against each other. Gadgets and stealth are OBVIOUSLY Batman's, so I haven't included them.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Batman bench presses more than Cap, explicitly on panel.

Eat it, Stilt.

In Philadelphia.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Seriously? Where?

Cap's is lower:

And Cap's curls are about 500 lbs:

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
In Philadelphia.

I don't think Gruenwald's series has any relevance today. He was adamant on Cap not being a superhuman. Starting from Brubaker, Cap is a legit superhuman and three times stronger than Bucky who is himself a peak human.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't think Gruenwald's series has any relevance today. He was adamant on Cap not being a superhuman.

It's worth noting that Gruenwald's Cap - without SSS - was still pretty much peak human.

Much like BP w/o HSH, but I digress.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Starting from Brubaker, Cap is a legit superhuman and three times stronger than Bucky who is himself a peak human.

👆

Cable gave him similar props:

And Cable is no slouch at physical attributes, despite his age.

So what I'm seeing is a lot of nice statements,but no actual feats for this feat war.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't think Gruenwald's series has any relevance today. He was adamant on Cap not being a superhuman. Starting from Brubaker, Cap is a legit superhuman and three times stronger than Bucky who is himself a peak human.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's worth noting that Gruenwald's Cap - without SSS - was still pretty much peak human.

Much like BP w/o HSH, but I digress.

👆

Cable gave him similar props:

And Cable is no slouch at physical attributes, despite his age.

Wasn't Bravo (who had "double human strength and speed"😉 also inferior to Cap?

Batman gets props from the Justice League, as he beats them mercilessly with Bat-kicks.

Same with Steve and Avengers.

Poor Thor is written like Cap's chihuahua dog these days... 😂

Thor doesn't even need Steve to humiliate him, his son can do the same.

Pretty sure there isn't a notable street leveler that wouldn't do the same (all of them being "Peak Human â„¢" of course, because that's what matters)

edit: those ruined characters are supposed to be "trademark symbol"

Originally posted by Philosophía
It's the same character, he hasn't gotten "double super hero soldier serum" power-ups. Designations of "peak human" [lol@Bucky] or "super-soldier" don't matter it's just masturbatory nonsense. What matters is raw direct comparisons and in doesn't get more explicit than these hard numbers -- which, in this case, Batman is shown as superior.

Batman gets props from the Justice League, as he beats them mercilessly with Bat-kicks.

We know that Cap is stronger than Daredevil who can match Bruce feat by feat (dude was swinging 400 lbs weights like nothing).

Cap is stronger than Bruce, not by much but he is.

Grue's Cap was a teetotaller, much like Abhi here.

Modern Steve drinks with f*cking Wolverine in shady bars 😂

Batman crushes Daredevil in strength and in striking power. But that's another thread.

That is the best raw numbers comparison with them doing the exact same thing that we have between Bruce and Cap. It's hard to ignore -- no matter your opinion of the writer (which is another discussion entirely). Using this same line of thinking, we can simply ignore any writer we don't like -- and trust me, I'd like to do so to many.

We agree on the opinion overall -- I think they're roughly even physically [and no considerable gap will be showed between them, as shown in multiple stories they've met] so... eh.

I'm talking about them naked, of course. In costume and with gadgets Batman pulls his dick out.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Batman crushes Daredevil in strength and in striking power. But that's another thread.

That is the best raw numbers comparison with them doing the exact same thing that we have between Bruce and Cap. It's hard to ignore -- no matter your opinion of the writer (which is another discussion entirely). Using this same line of thinking, we can simply ignore any writer we don't like -- and trust me, I'd like to do so to many.

We agree on the opinion overall -- I think they're roughly even physically [and no considerable gap will be showed between them, as shown in multiple stories they've met] so... eh.

I'm talking about them naked, of course. In costume and with gadgets Batman pulls his dick out.

I can also cite Batman unable to lift 630 lbs in Venom arc.

Didnt Cap casually toss Terrax or someone, who weighs over 2000 lbs?

Tripped him, I think.

Wolverine threw Dragon Man, who weighs 6000 lbs.

So he's stronger than both Cap and Bats together 👆