Obama Admin tried hard to get Trump on Epstein while giving him a sweetheart deal

Started by BrolyBlack2 pages

Originally posted by Artol
I don't think I'm showing bias, I'm just stating my understanding of the legal situation in the united states. Talking about Clinton though, I disagree with her stance on a level of political philosophy, I think it is important in a country that elected representatives are subjects to the laws of the country, so particularly things like corruption do have to be investigated. They should not be investigated on solely a partisan basis, of course.

I think what Clinton said, was less a conviction of hers and more a campaign reply to the popularity of "lock her up" and Trump's talking points about investigating her, that seems to be what most of American politics is, sadly.

What law did Trump break to deserve be under investigation

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
What law did Trump break to deserve be under investigation
you keep having this answered for you by people.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
What law did Trump break to deserve be under investigation
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
What law did Trump break to deserve be under investigation

I think there’s two points to this a) this document does not suggest that he was under investigation, but that the investigators followed up a lead and b) an investigation and subsequent trial is what happens to determine whether someone has broken the law.

The law that I assume the investigators suspected he might have broken when they asked this question is having sex with a minor, since that is what Epstein and Maxwell had been providing as a service for influential and rich people.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
with the deal Epstein got , he was still allowed to go to all his meetings etc whilst getting driven around.

No surprise.

The head prosecutors were all in on the sex island, I bet.

"If I was a head prostitutor".

They knew. Because they were in on it.

Originally posted by Artol
I think there’s two points to this a) this document does not suggest that he was under investigation, but that the investigators followed up a lead and b) an investigation and subsequent trial is what happens to determine whether someone has broken the law.

The law that I assume the investigators suspected he might have broken when they asked this question is having sex with a minor, since that is what Epstein and Maxwell had been providing as a service for influential and rich people.

Funny Clinton’s deposition hasn’t been leaked I bet I know why

So if Biden wins in November I suppose it's okay for Trump to spend the final few months in office digging into stuff about Joe Biden and Tara Reade...

Originally posted by Surtur
So if Biden wins in November I suppose it's okay for Trump to spend the final few months in office digging into stuff about Joe Biden and Tara Reade...

Do you think it would be treason if Trump did that?

Well it couldn't be if it was okay for Obama, right?

In fact, given this new info, do you agree Democrats would have no grounds to complain if trump did it?

For what it is worth I think it would be wrong if trump lost and did that.

Originally posted by Surtur
Well it couldn't be if it was okay for Obama, right?

In fact, given this new info, do you agree Democrats would have no grounds to complain if trump did it?

Yes, I agree with that, like I said I don’t think this kind of action is illegal or treasonous, nor should it be. Regardless of whether someone under Obama or Trump does it.

Presidents shouldn't be scrambling to dig up dirt on their successor in their final months in office.

And you have to wonder what the endgame was supposed to be? We both know it has nothing to do with them caring about justice and the law. And by this point Trump had already won the election so it wasn't about preventing that.

So it truly sounds like the Obama admin was fishing for stuff Democrats could use to impeach. Maybe you can say it's not illegal, but it's a betrayal of the country.

Originally posted by Artol
Yes, I agree with that, like I said I don’t think this kind of action is illegal or treasonous, nor should it be. Regardless of whether someone under Obama or Trump does it.

Actually it is illegal it’s called a criminal conspiracy.

Pity party, November is coming.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Actually it is illegal it’s called a criminal conspiracy.

At least they are acknowledging Obama's deep corruption, even if they are trying to say it is legal corruption.

#BabySteps

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Pity party, November is coming.

Nothing pales in comparison to the whining, bitching, moaning and triggering you have done 365 days a year here

Originally posted by Artol
I don't think I'm showing bias, I'm just stating my understanding of the legal situation in the united states.

I don't necessarily think you're coming from a position of bias, as well. However, when you review the evidence in it's totality, you get a very clear picture that this was treason.

The abuse of the FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign, the ties to the "three letter agencies", the evidence uncovered that showed these things involved Obama's administration, the entire General Flynn fiasco where they clearly targeted an innocent man for an incoming presidency, and then the clear cover-ups under official communication channels (such as repeating 3 different times that the transition was being done "by the book" - why are you trying to document, so hard, that the transition was being done by the book?), all adds up to clear culpability by both the Democrats involved in this and the Obama administration.

Since those actions started before Trump was elected and continued even after Trump took office, no amount of justification of "due diligence and due care" is a legitimate explanation for those actions. They were clear partisan activities that crossed the line into legitimate treason.

My guess as to why these have not been pursued with extreme prejudice including capital punishment for this treason is the GOP people are not 100% innocent of these activities, as well and it will start a cascade of criminal charges and treason convictions. It is a M.A.D. scenario. As usual, I think it was originally Backfire who pointed this out and I think it's right.

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