Yoda vs. Mace Canon · Star Wars Versus Forum

Forschbewithu Senior Member

Originally posted by juggernaut74
There is two volumes the one I mentioned was from the 2nd volume published in 2015.
So I think those are canon.

Ah, okay. Then I would imagine they would be! I have to find those scans somewhere. Maybe we'll get lucky here.

Forschbewithu Senior Member

What pieces of canon put Mace over Yoda in sabers?

qwertyuiop1998 The Vampire

Originally posted by Forschbewithu
What pieces of canon put Mace over Yoda in sabers?

Originally posted by Galan007
In the canon guidebook The Lightsaber Collector(slated for release later this year), Mace's leaked bio states that he was the "greatest swordsman" in the Jedi Order:
https://i.imgur.com/zdmRua2.jpg
And for a point of reference, this accolade was not contradicted by Yoda's leaked bio from the same source:
https://i.imgur.com/JBq308s.jpg
...Which helps explain why canon Mace was seemingly able to best Palpatine in sabers, while even Yoda could not.

Sheev Beyond Darkness

Originally posted by Forschbewithu
Ah, okay. Then I would imagine they would be! I have to find those scans somewhere. Maybe we'll get lucky here.

It wouldn't really matter if it was canon. The most recent information is what we go by.

But I don't know if Fact Files is canon, because it also mentions a LOT of EU / Legends stories.

Forschbewithu Senior Member

Originally posted by Sheev
It wouldn't really matter if it was canon. The most recent information is what we go by.
But I don't know if Fact Files is canon, because it also mentions a LOT of EU / Legends stories.

Didn't know what recent information we had until now! Anything else come out recently worthy of note?

Eli Vanto Tactical Prodigy

Originally posted by Sheev
But I don't know if Fact Files is canon, because it also mentions a LOT of EU / Legends stories.

👆 almost all of the issues detail events from Legends, which Disney never acknowledges.

It's also published by De Agostini which is an international publisher that I don't think Disney gives much credence to.

juggernaut74 Bigsexy

If I am not mistaken Disney put their logo on the issues.

Galan already said several times they were canon.

Darth Thor Senior Member

Mace has been named the Council or Jedis Greatest Warrior or something shit.

But meh if I had to put £5 on it Id say Yoda wins an all out.

Total Warrior Dark Councilor

Mace was also considered to be in the top 5 Jedi ever by that Nedi Knight, Trissa Mano or something. But I’d bet Yoda would have been the strongest Jedi ever, at least before Luke came

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Mace has been named the Council or Jedis Greatest Warrior or something shit.
But meh if I had to put £5 on it Id say Yoda wins an all out.

Mace was stated the be the Order's greatest swordsman in canon. Yoda was stated to be the most powerful Jedi of all time(up to RotS at least.)

So yeah, Yoda would beat him all-out, imo.

Forschbewithu Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
Mace was stated the be the Order's greatest swordsman in canon. Yoda was stated to be the most powerful Jedi of all time(up to RotS at least.)
So yeah, Yoda would beat him all-out, imo.

You're referring to the quote from Journey to Star Wars: The Last Jedi - The Power of the Force, correct?

Since that book was seemingly written for the last Jedi, do you think that means Yoda was more powerful than Luke even as of The last Jedi?

juggernaut74 Bigsexy

That would make sense.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Forschbewithu
You're referring to the quote from Journey to Star Wars: The Last Jedi - The Power of the Force, correct?
Since that book was seemingly written for the last Jedi, do you think that means Yoda was more powerful than Luke even as of The last Jedi?

I don't think so, personally. The context of that section of the book seemed to be centered around the Jedi of the PT, so that's what I think it was referencing with Yoda(ie. that he was the most powerful Jedi up to that point.)

After all, Luke was already equal to Vader as of RotJ. And given all the training/relic hoarding Luke did in the decades following RotJ(coupled with his ridiculous potential), I think it is logical to assume that he surpassed Yoda.

Sheev Beyond Darkness

Well Sidious is about to stomp Vader in the comic series. So that should given us a good indication of where Vader (and therefore Luke) would stand in comparison to Yoda, considering he and Sidious were equals.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Not really a good indicator at all, actually.

The comic series is set post-ESB. It would be pretty silly to assume that Palpatine's power hasn't increased at all in the 20+ years since he fought Yoda.

Sheev Beyond Darkness

Originally posted by Galan007
Not really a good indicator at all, actually.
The comic series is set post-ESB. It would be pretty silly to assume that Palpatine's power hasn't increased at all in the 20+ years since he fought Yoda.

Doh. I completely forgot that is the era the issues are set in. 😮

You're right. The sidious in this series should be considerably above the Sidious from ROTS.

Total Warrior Dark Councilor

Wait, sidious about to stomp vader? Weren't the two close in power in canon???

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

This is post-ESB Palpatine, who is logically a good bit more powerful than he was in RotS -- hence why Vader initially tried to team up with Luke before confronting him directly.

Definitely sounds like he will stomp Vader. How he does it is the only question.

relentless1 Dark Overlord of KMC

Originally posted by Galan007
This is post-ESB Palpatine, who is logically a good bit more powerful than he was in RotS -- hence why Vader initially tried to team up with Luke before confronting him directly.
Definitely sounds like he will stomp Vader. How he does it is the only question.

what comic is this??

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Upcoming issues of Darth Vader.