Originally posted by BackFire
In 100 years Trump will be one of those presidents that no one remembers. Obama will be remembered obviously. I think George W Bush will as well just because he was president during 9/11 and handled that well initially. Clinton will probably not be remembered that well either.
Wrong.
Originally posted by dadudemon
You're usually the one who makes the best points when you're serious. You make points that have stuck with me for years and are still right.But this is one of the times I don't think you'll get it right. I think we'll be covering this scenario in our history classes for years due to how extreme everything got in the information age. No other president in US History has experienced such pervasive negative press coverage: not even close. When 99%+ of your news coverage is negative during some months, there's something going on with your press when about 50% of your population approves of that politician.
This might go down in history as the turning point where the people and the MSM diverged so severely that the relationship became antagonistic (it has). People will look to Trump as the polarizing figure that took a stand against the politically correct bastions of the MSM and basically shat all over it like a monkey throwing a tantrum.
If...if only we had a more mature, charismatic, and well spoken person in office doing this same exact thing.
We still talk about Reagan to this day. Trump is far more widely spoken about and his fanatics are the most extreme I've ever seen or read about in all of US History. He's like Reagan on steroids if the steroids were made of McDonald's cheeseburgers.
Reagan was popular among people outside the republican party. Americans of all walks of life liked him at the time. The same is not true of Trump.
I don't think history will talk much about the MSM being unfair to Trump.
I don't believe Trump has been a very noteworthy president. If he's remembered at all it will be because he was president during Covid. And maybe because of his underdog win, but probably not because how presidents win election isn't something that is really covered by history after a certain point in time.
But going back to Reagan for a moment, he will be remembered because of the Berlin wall and things having to do with the USSR and its ultimate collapse and Cold War kinda stuff.
This is why I think Trump won't be remembered by the majority in 100 years. How many presidents to the general public really know about that aren't relatively recent? They're presidents that presided over something really historically important happening or bringing about some enormous type of change. Despite Trump's divisiveness and most of his term was very uneventful and pretty peaceful until Covid.
Originally posted by BackFire
There's no reason to really remember him. He hasn't accomplished anything of value that will have any long term ramifications, other than botching the US response to covid. What I said will be especially true if he ends up serving only one term.
Do you really think anyone else would have done any better?
I mean, they sign bills into law. They aren't medical experts.
And while its easy to criticize him for passing the buck to China, at the end of the day the responsibility for underreporting really does fall on China..
Originally posted by BackFire
Reagan was popular among people outside the republican party. Americans of all walks of life liked him at the time. The same is not true of Trump.I don't think history will talk much about the MSM being unfair to Trump.
I don't believe Trump has been a very noteworthy president. If he's remembered at all it will be because he was president during Covid. And maybe because of his underdog win, but probably not because how presidents win election isn't something that is really covered by history after a certain point in time.
But going back to Reagan for a moment, he will be remembered because of the Berlin wall and things having to do with the USSR and its ultimate collapse and Cold War kinda stuff.
This is why I think Trump won't be remembered by the majority in 100 years. How many presidents to the general public really know about that aren't relatively recent? They're presidents that presided over something really historically important happening or bringing about some enormous type of change. Despite Trump's divisiveness and most of his term was very uneventful and pretty peaceful until Covid.
There's really no reason to remember Obama except as being the biggest joke of a president in American history.
Trump deserves to have grand statues erected in his honor. His face should be added to Mount Rushmore.
Originally posted by cdtm
Do you really think anyone else would have done any better?I mean, they sign bills into law. They aren't medical experts.
And while its easy to criticize him for passing the buck to China, at the end of the day the responsibility for underreporting really does fall on China..
Yeah, lol @ all this cucking leftists do for China. It's quite pathetic really.
Originally posted by cdtm
Do you really think anyone else would have done any better?I mean, they sign bills into law. They aren't medical experts.
And while its easy to criticize him for passing the buck to China, at the end of the day the responsibility for underreporting really does fall on China..
Yes. Covid still would have happened but he showed no leadership. He just passed the blame as he always does, because he's a coward who never takes responsibility for anything. Other people would have also listened more closely to scientists and doctors and not offered snake oil remedies as possibilities when there was no data or science to back them up at the time.
But even if you think he did a good job (lol), Covid will ultimately be the only reason he may be remembered.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
There's really no reason to remember Obama except as being the biggest joke of a president in American history.Trump deserves to have grand statues erected in his honor. His face should be added to Mount Rushmore.
Obama will be remembered simply for being the first african american president. That alone ensures he will be known.
What also helps Obama, Presidents are compared to who came before and after them and Obama is sitting between a President who started a very unpopular war under a false premise and what will be a one-term loser who whined on TV about how someone else (Fauci) is more popular than him at a time when 1,000+ Americans are dying each day from a pandemic he himself failed to contain.
eg Reagan sits between Carter who is considered a one-term milquetoast and Clinton the sexual deviant.
Originally posted by Robtard
What also helps Obama, Presidents are compared to who came before and after them and Obama is sitting between a President who started a very unpopular war under a false premise and what will be a one-term loser who whined on TV about how someone else (Fauci) is more popular than him at a time when 1,000+ Americans are dying each day from a pandemic he himself failed to contain.eg Reagan sits between Carter who is considering a one-term milquetoast and Clinton the sexual deviant.
Depends on who's looking.
Someone else might say "Boy, he sure had it easy compared to them."
Even though he did preside over a pandemic, and did quite well.
Plus the corporate scandals ala Enron.
Although he also did a bit of invading himself. Plus bailing out those fatcats on Wall-Street, who caused the mentioned scandals and wiping out of peoples life savings.
Originally posted by cdtm
Depends on who's looking.Someone else might say "Boy, he sure had it easy compared to them."
Even though he did preside over a pandemic, and did quite well.
Plus the corporate scandals ala Enron.
Although he also did a bit of invading himself. Plus bailing out those fatcats on Wall-Street, who caused the mentioned scandals and wiping out of peoples life savings.
A pandemic and the 2008 crash.
Originally posted by Robtard
A pandemic and the 2008 crash.
Yes, the crash.
Caused by corporate suits fudging margins and resulting in wiping out of famlies entire savings. I went to a group meeting presided over by a woman who lost everything..
And those assholes got government money for all the lives they ruined, and hardly any jail time.
I wish Bernie was a viable candidate.
Originally posted by BackFire
In 100 years Trump will be one of those presidents that no one remembers. Obama will be remembered obviously. I think George W Bush will as well just because he was president during 9/11 and handled that well initially. Clinton will probably not be remembered that well either.
Obama will be remembered for the color of his skin and not a single other thing.
And I love that. I do love this half white male being reduced to his skin color in the annals of history.
Originally posted by Surtur
Transphobic, homophobic, choose your buzzword kiddo.Just to be clear: I'm using the left leaning definition of these words and not the actual definitions.
He asked you who is trans, dummy.
Originally posted by Surtur
Why so transphobic?
Originally posted by Raptor22
who is a trans?