Can World Breaker Hulk break the chains in Up and the Sky?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
When you're able to quantify the feat, let me know. I'll THEN take the "feat" serious, until then, it's unquantifiable, and hyperbole. No amount of head canon changes that. You desperately wanting Superman to have a feat won't make it a feat, Just a lil advice 😂 His best ACTUAL impressive feat so far was destroying a small planet after multiple attempts, that i can agree with.

Please refrain from giving any advice. telling other people how to flush the toilet because you just learned how isn’t good advice.

He wasn’t even trying to destroy the planet, you’re trying to change the topic because you lost this argument. now get back after you hear this arc in audio format. Then have someone explain each panel at a time to you. Once you do this then come back and chat.

Also still waiting on your scan.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't know why you're quoting him. Hulk didn't go there to kill Wolverine, so why would he try to destroy Wolverine adamantium? I can easily reverse his post back on him.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why do you continue to ignore other people's arguments and restate your own? This is trolling. You must address the points made by others and logically rebut them. Merely dismissing them or ignoring them is not rebutting them.

Again, we know that the feat is ABOVE a million stellar weights of force by lowballing the feat.

The writer's intent is that the stars were hauled BY THE CHAINS at FTL speeds

No we don't, SPEED was never mentioned. I already addressed Saints argument, learn how to read

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
YOU are going by an unknown conclusion both clear unknown variables.
it's just vague. Saying it's involved in a process doesn't tell you what the other parts of that process is.
Yes we are on a forum where we discuss what happens in a comic book. That doesn't mean we ignore all other available info.

you're assuming that the weight is there to be pulled when there's a great possibility it's not. It's also assuming the chains are doing all the work which we know they aren't. It's head canon through and through.
None of your pseudo calc mean a thing because there's factors FAR beyond modern science that there's no way in hell anyone could calculate.
it's YOUR fiction and actually has no real bearing on the book or feat because you created 85% if the info you used for calcs in your own head, not based off the book. Cuz like, the book gives next to zero info
There is no information except that the chains are part of a mechanism to move stars. That's the ONLY concrete info. So anything else is pure speculatory thinking. Head canon. Fan fic.

😂 😂 It's funny cuz like on another thread i already previously destroyed every argument you dudes came up with to the point y'all ran away and only thing left was ad hominem attacks like the usual

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=670836&pagenumber=12

And here I do it again. This wreckage is worse than the the time i've had to stomp you and your camp on that world forger feat, i wonder why it's rarely brought up anymore

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 😂 It's funny cuz like on another thread i already previously destroyed every argument you dudes came up with to the point y'all ran away and only thing left was ad hominem attacks like the usual

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=670836&pagenumber=12

And here I do it again. This wreckage is worse than the the time i've had to stomp you and your camp on that world forger feat, i wonder why it's rarely brought up anymore

Youre the reason we need mod rulings. You get made a fool and then 2 months later you come back tell us that you debunked everyone. You haven’t won a single BZ or an argument since you’ve been here.

The average distance between galaxies is 9.9 million light years.
The time it takes to haul a star to its destination is less than a year. So let's assume a year.
The equation for distance, acceleration, and time is d=1/2 a t^2
Solving for acceleration gives a = 2d/t^2
Plugging in the values gives 1.88e8 m/s^2
Diving by the acceleration og gravity on Earth (9.8 m/s^2)
Gives over 19 million times the weight of the star that was hauled.

Even if you say 100 years (not a reasonable time) then you still get over 1900 stellar weights.

And here's the scan

😂 BU-t sTar hAulLiNG cHaIns Bro!!

It was a one and done, writing by Tom King whos known for wanking heroes' power levels, it never mattered before, and it doesn't matter now.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
No we don't, SPEED was never mentioned. I already addressed Saints argument, learn how to read

As far as the time we simply pick a reasonable time to haul a single star to its new destination according to writers of fiction.
It's reasonable to suggest less than a year. It's not reasonable to suggest 100 years.

Even if we go with the unreasonable time of 100 years then we still get over 1900 stellar weights.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
And here's the scan

😂 BU-t sTar hAulLiNG cHaIns Bro!!

It was a one and done, writing by Tom King whos known for wanking heroes' power levels, it never mattered before, and it doesn't matter now.

👆

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
And here's the scan

😂 BU-t sTar hAulLiNG cHaIns Bro!!

It was a one and done, writing by Tom King whos known for wanking heroes' power levels, it never mattered before, and it doesn't matter now.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
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Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
And here's the scan

😂 BU-t sTar hAulLiNG cHaIns Bro!!

It was a one and done, writing by Tom King whos known for wanking heroes' power levels, it never mattered before, and it doesn't matter now.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You two will ignore the fact that a throwaway villain had a solid enough invasion force and apparently was towing stars via "we don't know" just to come to that conclusion then say that. The shit isn't irrelevant because it's an unknown variable that's there that you can't figure out to at least give it an as close to definitive answer that fiction allows then it's clear that's your aim.

This was your rebuttal? It's not really an argument....nor does it address my points.

We work off what is given, then lowball numbers to get a rough approximation. I mean, you said this:

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Even within the realm of suspended disbelief in fiction, moving stars at glacial speed, i.e. like a terraforming project, makes infinitely more sense than say light speed Transport

So how long would you say a terraforming project would take - what is a reasonable amount of time? 10 million years? 1? 100,000 years? 1,000 years? 100? 10?

Anyway:

Originally posted by -Pr-
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Yeah... except that people weren't asked to deconstruct the feat. They were asked if the characters could replicate it. So you lot are way off topic.

People need to get back on topic.

Originally posted by carver9
Agreed. So no argument can be made on Hulk destroying a Universe during a fist fight?

Its said right there on panel as plain as day. Do you accept this?

Obviously you didn't read the actual comic. This isn't even the comic, it's a flashback.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 Oh REALLY? because he was JUST again RECENTLY chained up and didn't break out of it. Let me know if you want the scan, I'll GLADLY post it.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
And here's the scan

😂 BU-t sTar hAulLiNG cHaIns Bro!!

It was a one and done, writing by Tom King whos known for wanking heroes' power levels, it never mattered before, and it doesn't matter now.

So as Abhi pointed out, this example is pretty irrelevant to the topic. So you're a liar.

Originally posted by carver9
Youre better than this. He escaped. Hulk strength was too much...

Also, this...

Hulk broke the bands as if they were made of tissue. Try again.

So the first example, it's your wet dream Hulk broke out. Breaking Strange's concentration is because he was protecting others from it landing on them. You arguing it's Hulk's strength is retarded.

Second scan you didn't dispute when Lawless said it's alternate universe versions. So this is your argument? Hulk completely and utterly incapable of breaking the actual bonds and an alternate universe example? You'd have been better off arguing it's a high end feat for Namor than this.

Originally posted by carver9
His comprehension is TERRIBLE!!! T.E.R.R.I.B.L.E.

Did irony buy you dinner first before ****ing you, or at least call the morning after?

^^^
This is why I thought JBL was lying. States stars here but JBL said blackholes. Him and his crew are a bunch of liars, says his mom actually posts is a perfect example of his dishonesty.
Here is the scan I thought JBL was referring to.

but you know them little ***** will try to take any victory they can get. There are so few of them.

I didn't even get credit 🙁

But this is how you know I am not afraid to be unbiased and give correction where I can 👆

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I didn't even get credit 🙁

But this is how you know I am not afraid to be unbiased and give correction where I can 👆

Originally posted by Delta1938
So the first example, it's your wet dream Hulk broke out. Breaking Strange's concentration is because he was protecting others from it landing on them. You arguing it's Hulk's strength is retarded.

Second scan you didn't dispute when Lawless said it's alternate universe versions. So this is your argument? Hulk completely and utterly incapable of breaking the actual bonds and an alternate universe example? You'd have been better off arguing it's a high end feat for Namor than this.

Did irony buy you dinner first before ****ing you, or at least call the morning after?

That is 616 Banner.

Originally posted by h1a8
The average distance between galaxies is 9.9 million light years.
The time it takes to haul a star to its destination is less than a year. So let's assume a year.
The equation for distance, acceleration, and time is d=1/2 a t^2
Solving for acceleration gives a = 2d/t^2
Plugging in the values gives 1.88e8 m/s^2
Diving by the acceleration og gravity on Earth (9.8 m/s^2)
Gives over 19 million times the weight of the star that was hauled.

Even if you say 100 years (not a reasonable time) then you still get over 1900 stellar weights.

Originally posted by h1a8
Again you are ignoring what I said. We calculate speed from time and distance. If we know 2 quantities then we can solve for the other. The only quantity we know for sure is distance between galaxies.

As far as the time we simply pick a reasonable time to haul a single star to its new destination according to writers of fiction.
It's reasonable to suggest less than a year. It's not reasonable to suggest 100 years.

Even if we go with the unreasonable time of 100 years then we still get over 1900 stellar weights.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This was your rebuttal? It's not really an argument....nor does it address my points.

We work off what is given, then lowball numbers to get a rough approximation. I mean, you said this:

So how long would you say a terraforming project would take - what is a reasonable amount of time? 10 million years? 1? 100,000 years? 1,000 years? 100? 10?

Anyway:

and how does the chains, by themselves do that? I'll wait

Originally posted by abhilegend
Magical chains from an elder god. Just shows that they are more powerful than kerenthium chains.

My point exactly, hence Superman can't break "anything". What does "magic" have to do with anything? 😂 Just recently in your Superman powering The SuN feat, He did it despite months of being continuously bombarded with every type of Kryptonite in existence and ....

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
We have the latest Superman issue, Superman #24, saying Clark is as weak/vulnerable to magic as he is to kryptonite.

So NOPE i don't wanna hear that excuse.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
That is 616 Banner.

So did carter utterly fail, or Lawest could have worded it better on who was from where?