Jacob Blake Police Shooting

Originally posted by dadudemon
I used to hold that all humans, regardless of race or ethnic origins, have the same cognitive potential.

My original position was something along the lines of, "When you control for Socio-Economic Status, which includes education, IQ normalizes to 100 in the Stanford-Binet metric." But it turns out I was wrong. There are IQ differences across races/ethnicities even when you control for SES.

Even worse, it's not a secret with the psychological and DHHS communities. Sure, it is a truth that is not touted as happy and joyous. But they are readily aware of this disparity. The only way I can explain away my factually incorrect position is I was incorrectly taught for years that all humans are equal when it comes to learning capacity and intelligence and I failed to actually check the science until Nemebro politely called me out on it.

I spent hours trying to find credible science to support my previously held position. Because, you know, confirmation bias. But I could not find credible, quality science to support the notion that all humans have the same cognitive abilities.

However, I will say that China's scores are inflated and they try their best to censor real data. Singapore's is likely accurate, however: they really do have that high of an IQ on average.

I've seen some studies about gender. Saying men are more likely to be geniuses, but also more likely to be below average intelligence. While women are more likely to be in the middle.

No clue if it's a valid thing, but some have said it.

Originally posted by Surtur
I've seen some studies about gender. Saying men are more likely to be geniuses, but also more likely to be below average intelligence. While women are more likely to be in the middle.

No clue if it's a valid thing, but some have said it.

Intelligence is complicated, I knew this guy in high school who did really well on standardized tests, I'm talking one of the top scorers in the entire graduating class.

He constantly got very low grades on his homework though. And I've known some who are the opposite of that. Sometimes the pressure of the tests gets to a person.

It's somewhat like a lie detector test, not necessarily accurate cuz stress is a factor.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
The one interesting bit of Genetics in relation to IQ that does kind of hold up (but not really), is mothers IQ are the best indicator for a child's indicating possibly some kind of sex linkage involved. However, it's questionable tbh. Also IQ tests can be raised with practice, by a lot... It's unlikely that this is an epigenetic response 😂 although interestingly environmental factors may affect epigenetic responses in complex genetic mosaics.

Putinbot becoming red pilled.

Originally posted by Surtur
Intelligence is complicated, I knew this guy in high school who did really well on standardized tests, I'm talking one of the top scorers in the entire graduating class.

He constantly got very low grades on his homework though. And I've known some who are the opposite of that. Sometimes the pressure of the tests gets to a person.

It's somewhat like a lie detector test, not necessarily accurate cuz stress is a factor.

Originally posted by JohnnyRotton
Putinbot becoming red pilled.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
No, I'm saying crystalline intelligence is probably a myth propagated by psychologists anyway.

A myth?

Crystalline intelligence is simply defined as "the things you learn".

Originally posted by JohnnyRotton
I have no idea why you held such a statistical impossibility in your head for so long.

Originally posted by JohnnyRotton
I mean, did you even account for people with learning disabilities?

Obviously, yes. Think less in exception fallacies and more in statistics where these things look like a normal distribution curve and controlling for the SES variables normalizes the racial subsets such that they overlap when plotted on the same chart <- that was my original position.

Because we are talking about IQ where your score is a function of standard deviation from 100, population, and normal distributions. It's the entire topic so it seems nonsensical to ask "did you consider subset y which has a standard deviation of x?" Obviously, yes. That's how it works.

Originally posted by Surtur
I've seen some studies about gender. Saying men are more likely to be geniuses, but also more likely to be below average intelligence. While women are more likely to be in the middle.

No clue if it's a valid thing, but some have said it.

It is valid. Men's bell curve is "flatter."

Evolutionary psychologists explain this by pointing out that females are the primary care-givers of children so nature demands a more predictable intelligence. Whereas men are the risk takers, protectors, and hunters so greater variability is acceptable to produce more varied outcomes.

Our genes are still almost 100.000% what they were when Cro Magnon rose from the evolutionary tree. So we carry all of those adaptive traits that allowed us to be successful from the previous 2 million years of hominid evolution.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Also IQ tests can be raised with practice, by a lot...

Some tests specifically try to control for this like the S&B. But I literally got much higher scores taking those tests when I was a kid simply because I better understood what they were asking the next time I took the test - speed is also a factor.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Right now, all of the usual suspects are frustrated with the overt racism of JohnnyRotton, because he is saying out loud what they pretend not to believe. They do not want to condemn his rhetoric, but they do not want to out themselves as sympathizers either. What they fail to realize is that their silence already outs them.

It's 2016-2017 come around

Honestly the alternate views are more dangerous than mine.

Thinking that all groups of people have innately equal intelligence and capability results in things like this happening :

African leader thought he could replace white farmers with black farmers and everything would be find. The result was a spike in starvation, because the blacks simply were not nearly as efficient at running farms then whites.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/09/15/far-right-kyle-rittenhouse-propaganda-not-factually-based-says-kenosha-militia-participant

Oh Dear, the far right narrative starts to crack as a militia member tells it as it is. Yes, he is named.

LOL! Splc center citing militia members as proof.

Oh man. I legit laughed. Next the KKK will be citing NAACP members.

Originally posted by Surtur
LOL! Splc center citing militia members as proof.

Oh man. I legit laughed. Next the KKK will be citing NAACP members.

I just love being better than anyone who would have balked if the militia said the opposite and not believed it, but good thing that isn't you 🙂

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
The militia member has been recorded saying this, walked round with rittenhouse, said the militia wasn't organised. Mentions lies rittenhouse made so they would let him march with them. I see a day in court for this witness... and his friends😉

WEEE have fun with that, right now we have video of a guy putting out a fire from rioters and running away from folks until they assault him............oh and we have them verbally assaulting him as well prior to the event.

But wait, I don't like guns so I'll blame the kid first......... 🙄

Let's be clear I don't like open carry, I don't think he should have been there and I certainly wouldn't allow my kid nor would I attend such an event.

Yet rioters assaulted someone armed and as rob says play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I've read the prosecutors statements and it's built around the defense of kyle being assaulted. Anyone can read it now.

I actually love this. I want them to say they trust militia members more than video.

Whirly, you got the sac to type that out? No need to be afraid, but if you reufse to say it yes it confirms you are afraid 🙂

Originally posted by Surtur
I actually love this. I want them to say they trust militia members more than video.

Whirly, you got the sac to type that out? No need to be afraid, but if you reufse to say it yes it confirms you are afraid 🙂

Right now it's just games, read the prosecutors statements. It is literally built around Kyle defending himself and running away from ppl.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Right now it's just games, read the prosecutors statements. It is literally built around Kyle defending himself and running away from ppl.

This clip exemplifies exactly what is going on:

YouTube video

Just fun and games