Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He grabbed Loki's head, and right when his neck was at the stretching point, we see a Rune at the tear:
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/8/80518/1468665-thor084_22.jpgI'm guessing that's the magic that's keeping Loki alive.
There is a different rune in the first two panels, too. Right on Thor's hand, when he's pulling Loki's ridiculous ponytail thing.
How convenient that you're choosing not to see it.
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Makes perfect sense the magic of the runes was involved in the very process of "ripping" his head off, as all laws of our material realm were raped in that scene.
Last 2 pages we mentioned everything that is wrong with it.
tl;dr, summary below:
Originally posted by Galan007
You have:-The glowing rune appearing on Thor's hand right before he beheads Loki(which, in the very same issue, only happened right before he used rune magic *see the scans I posted*.)
-Loki's body not even lifting off the ground -- I can assure you that your body would not stay in the same place if someone was exerting enough upward physical force to rip your head off.
-A perfectly even/surgical decapitation -- again, if your head is physically torn from your body, it's not just going to pop off in a straight line like that.
...And unless you think that Loki's pony tail had far greater durability than his spine/muscle/skin, then the hair would have ripped off well before his head gave way.
Everything points to it being a display of Thor's magic, and not brute physical force. Imo.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
There is a different rune in the first two panels, too. Right on Thor's hand, when he's pulling Loki's ridiculous ponytail thing.How convenient that you're choosing not to see it.
It's all Rune power spells. RK Thor knew every ancient Asgardian spell as if he was the spell itself. He was the personification of the Runes after all. The Runes gave him power over life and death, which was why he could have a conversation with Loki's head. Meanwhile the Black Winter could see the Herald King's death. Death that held no power over RK Thor.
Originally posted by Stoic
It's all Rune power spells. RK Thor knew every ancient Asgardian spell as if he was the spell itself. He was the personification of the Runes after all. The Runes gave him power over life and death, which was why he could have a conversation with Loki's head. Meanwhile the Black Winter could see the Herald King's death. Death that held no power over RK Thor.
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Originally posted by Stoic
Prove that the blast would be capable of harming him while being protected by the Runes.
By that token, I'd have to prove Thanos with the IG could hurt RKT being protected by the runes or God Emperor Doom. Outside of vague statements about life or death what defensive feats do the runes even have besides blocking punches from a weakened Mangog?
Originally posted by Classic NES
By that token, I'd have to prove Thanos with the IG could hurt RKT being protected by the runes or God Emperor Doom. Outside of vague statements about life or death what defensive feats do the runes even have besides blocking punches from a weakened Mangog?
Effortlessly undoing the machinations of one with Mangog's power, coupled by the might of a Sky Father, or a being that possesses the power of Asgard. So, let's move the goalposts back to the Herald King and stay far away from beings that are also able to bend the physical universe like putty.
Originally posted by Stoic
Effortlessly undoing the machinations of one with Mangog's power, coupled by the might of a Sky Father, or a being that possesses the power of Asgard. So, let's move the goalposts back to the Herald King and stay far away from beings that are also able to bend the physical universe like putty.
The highlighted part makes no sense, he's already a sky father regardless. What does that having rune magic add to that? 😕 Thor with a God Blast has injured sky-father beings, you don't think a stronger version of Thor could do the same?
Originally posted by Classic NES
The highlighted part makes no sense, he's already a sky father regardless. What does that having rune magic add to that? 😕 Thor with a God Blast has injured sky-father beings, you don't think a stronger version of Thor could do the same?
Let's go back. I was talking about the power that Loki possessed, as he was the one that had the power of Asagard (making him as powerful as a Sky Father), coupled with the power of Mangog. But let's look closer at all of the things that physically harmed the Herald King. Let's look at the fact that Thor was the master of the Runes, while Odin in comparison a novice. The power gleaned from the Runes was absolutely dependent upon the magnitude of the sacrifice used to tap into the Runes. As stated, To give everything, is to do anything.
I don't believe that he can affect RK Thor because of the Rune magics protecting him.
Originally posted by Stoic
Let's go back. I was talking about the power that Loki possessed, as he was the one that had the power of Asagard (making him as powerful as a Sky Father), coupled with the power of Mangog. But let's look closer at all of the things that physically harmed the Herald King. Let's look at the fact that Thor was the master of the Runes, while Odin in comparison a novice. The power gleaned from the Runes was absolutely dependent upon the magnitude of the sacrifice used to tap into the Runes. As stated, To give everything, is to do anything.
The bolded is complete nonsense, there's no correlation between power levels and the degree of sacrifice. The Odin-Force explained why Thor's sacrifice had to be greater straight up before he could be granted the full measure of the Odin Force. And, there's no mention of Thor being more adept at Rune Magic, Rune magic is wank anyway it did nothing for the most part. It didn't even end Ragnarok that was Thor's experiences on Midgard that did. But, I'm going to let you indulge in your fan fiction of multiversal RKT or whatever. Galan, Abe, and Stlit already shut this RKT nonsense down thank God, I just wish it was debunked sooner.
Originally posted by Classic NES
The bolded is complete nonsense, there's no correlation between power levels and the degree of sacrifice. The Odin-Force explained why Thor's sacrifice had to be greater straight up before he could be granted the full measure of the Odin Force. And, there's no mention of Thor being more adept at Rune Magic, Rune magic is wank anyway it did nothing for the most part. It didn't even end Ragnarok that was Thor's experiences on Midgard that did. But, I'm going to let you indulge in your fan fiction of multiversal RKT or whatever. Galan, Abe, and Stlit already shut this RKT nonsense down thank God, I just wish it was debunked sooner.
It was never debunked just misunderstood. RK Thor could not change destiny as stated (which doesn't give you reason to place him on Odin's level). As far as the notion goes of RK Thor having complete mastery over the Runes vs Odin's extremely limited affinity to the Runes has not, and will not change. Your understanding is off. Any being that possesses the power of Asgard is a Sky Father just like Odin. Loki had that power, and he had the power of Mangog as stated. How is it that a being that possesses Sky Father power, plus the power of Mangog being shown to be helpless before the power of the Runes? Could Odin deal with Mangog alone in that fashion? If so, why was he recently being brutalized by Mangog?
It's actually highly doubtful that Odin would defeat Loki considering his latest run-in with Mangog alone, but for the sake of giving it a chance, if Odin could beat Loki at that level, he'd be in the fight of his life. Meanwhile RK Thor dismantled Loki without any effort, and had him begging for his life.
I never said anything about multiversal, nor is that even needed to topple the Herald King. You're moving the goalposts.
