Rune King Thor vs. Current Thor

I've been working 12 hour shifts for weeks now, as my company 3M owes millions of dollars of medical stock to hospitals worldwide, which is why there are long gaps in my posts. So apologies.

RK Thor would pluck the Herald King's head off like a grape, toss his body into a ravine and continue having a mild conversation with his head. Take note that the Herald King felt pain. Boulders tossed at him drove him to his knees, and while Mangog may have been weaker than normal, he was certainly stronger than the aliens that tossed those boulders.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Doubtful, herald has more offensive output but rkt will be a step ahead. Should be a good fight.

Nope RK Thor would casually break him, and put him back together when he regained his calm.

No

Anyway since Dambo is backing out of the BZ, I'll make my argument right here.

RKT got Odinforce and Runes just like Odin did. From Thor 84.

Unlike Odin he had to die and reborn to get the power of the runes because the cyclic nature of Ragnarok made sacrifices lesser, that's why Thor had to pluck out both his eyes instead of one.

Thor had only one advantage on Odin, he had lived as a mortal (which was a gift from Odin) and thus his actions were shielded from both Those who sit in the Shadows and Odinforce itself.

Recap and ending page of Thor 85 says the same.

Thor wasn't more powerful or knowledgeable than Odin, he was shielded from the older gods and fates themselves due to having lived as a mortal.

Even feat wise RKT isn't more powerful than Odin.

RKT makes a weakened Mangog cease to exist.

Odin causes a full power Mangog to cease to exist.

RKT defeats Loki (Mind you, Loki never said he had siphoned the magic of Asgard, just that he was Asgard now).

Odin defeats Loki and Absorbing Man who actually became Asgard.

https://m.imgur.com/a/LwbMJm0

Also RKT said he can't reverse what's already happened.

While Odin has reversed time before Thor killed several heroes in Thor First Thunder.

So yeah.

Two different Handbooks confirm the same.

"Thor sacrificed his life to gain the Odin's power and wisdom".

So you're claiming that Odin could single handedly defeat the Ones that sit above in shadows? Loki like all Sky Fathers are Asgard. More recently Thor as the All Father gained the power of the Lord of Asgard. RK Thor easily defeated Loki who had the power of Asgard like all All Fathers, plus a portion of Mangog's might. But wait, are you twisting it to shine on your argument? How weak was Mangog? Are you saying that Mangog was drained? Wouldn't that still mean that RK Thor effortlessly defeated Mangog plus the power of Asgard effortlessly? But yeah, he's just Odin level.

Back to what I said.

Originally posted by Stoic
I've been working 12 hour shifts for weeks now, as my company 3M owes millions of dollars of medical stock to hospitals worldwide, which is why there are long gaps in my posts. So apologies.

RK Thor would pluck the Herald King's head off like a grape, toss his body into a ravine and continue having a mild conversation with his head. Take note that the Herald King felt pain. Boulders tossed at him drove him to his knees, and while Mangog may have been weaker than normal, he was certainly stronger than the aliens that tossed those boulders.

Nope RK Thor would casually break him, and put him back together when he regained his calm.

Originally posted by Stoic
So you're claiming that Odin could single handedly defeat the Ones that sit above in shadows? Loki like all Sky Fathers are Asgard. More recently Thor as the All Father gained the power of the Lord of Asgard. RK Thor easily defeated Loki who had the power of Asgard like all All Fathers, plus a portion of Mangog's might. But wait, are you twisting it to shine on your argument? How weak was Mangog? Are you saying that Mangog was drained? Wouldn't that still mean that RK Thor effortlessly defeated Mangog plus the power of Asgard effortlessly? But yeah, he's just Odin level.

Back to what I said.

Just stop. He gained the power of Odin as stated in both comic and handbooks.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I posted all the relevant scans. And Loki never stated that he had the power of Asgard or he was a skyfather.

Just stop. He gained the power of Odin as stated in both comic and handbooks.

Not as cut and dry as you're letting on. Thor went further than Odin did, sacrificed more than Odin did, and thus gained far more power, and control of the Runes than Odin ever did. Now you want to deviate from your claim. I'm holding you to it though. No escape Abhi. You claimed that Mangog was weakened, due to Loki taking a portion of his might. We all know that Loki at that time was Asgard, like Odin was Asgard. All Sky Fathers have the power of their native realms. Loki was no different. So, he had Odin level power coupled with Mangog's power who alone was more powerful than Odin. RK Thor casually phucked Loki up with all of those bells and whistles. Casually. He literally plucked his head off and had a conversation with him, at which point Loki should have been dead.

Then you're saying that Odin could solo the Ones that sit above in shadows, who happen to be the Gods of the Asgardians. You're trying too hard.

So yeah. Maybe we should take your word for it based on piecemeal citations, or go by Mangog nearly ripping Odin apart in their latest confrontion, and others prior to it, ignore the boulders that drove the Herald King to his knees, the pleadings of the Ones that sit above in shadow, Loki being Asgard, Beta Ray Bill harming him (the Herald King) with physical attacks, RK Thor being stated to have gone further than Odin, and more.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not as cut and dry as you're letting on. Thor went further than Odin did, sacrificed more than Odin did, and thus gained far more power, and control of the Runes than Odin ever did. Now you want to deviate from your claim. I'm holding you to it though. No escape Abhi. You claimed that Mangog was weakened, due to Loki taking a portion of his might. We all know that Loki at that time was Asgard, like Odin was Asgard. All Sky Fathers have the power of their native realms. Loki was no different. So, he had Odin level power coupled with Mangog's power who alone was more powerful than Odin. RK Thor casually phucked Loki up with all of those bells and whistles. Casually. He literally plucked his head off and had a conversation with him, at which point Loki should have been dead.

Then you're saying that Odin could solo the Ones that sit above in shadows, who happen to be the Gods of the Asgardians. You're trying too hard.

https://postimg.cc/8sLLtvtL

Loki never had power of Asgard. Stop the nonsense.

Originally posted by Stoic
So yeah. Maybe we should take your word for it based on piecemeal citations, or go by Mangog nearly ripping Odin apart in their latest confrontion, and others prior to it, ignore the boulders that drove the Herald King to his knees, the pleadings of the Ones that sit above in shadow, Loki being Asgard, Beta Ray Bill harming him (the Herald King) with physical attacks, RK Thor being stated to have gone further than Odin, and more.

Another handbook confirming the same as what I said.

A question. What are the feats of "Those Who Sit Above in Shadow" ?
What's special about them?

Originally posted by abhilegend

RKT got Odinforce and Runes just like Odin did. From Thor 84.

Been saying this for years and people called me crazy. Odin knew rune magic too it was stated in Ragnarok.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not as cut and dry as you're letting on. Thor went further than Odin did, sacrificed more than Odin did, and thus gained far more power, and control of the Runes than Odin ever did. Now you want to deviate from your claim. I'm holding you to it though. No escape Abhi. You claimed that Mangog was weakened, due to Loki taking a portion of his might. We all know that Loki at that time was Asgard, like Odin was Asgard. All Sky Fathers have the power of their native realms. Loki was no different. So, he had Odin level power coupled with Mangog's power who alone was more powerful than Odin. RK Thor casually phucked Loki up with all of those bells and whistles. Casually. He literally plucked his head off and had a conversation with him, at which point Loki should have been dead.

Then you're saying that Odin could solo the Ones that sit above in shadows, who happen to be the Gods of the Asgardians. You're trying too hard.

Thor didn't beat the ones who sit in Shadow through direct combat. And they literally have no feats.

Originally posted by Stoic
and thus gained far more power, and control of the Runes than Odin ever did.

Originally posted by nortonek
A question. What are the feats of "Those Who Sit Above in Shadow" ?
What's special about them?

Originally posted by Classic NES
Been saying this for years and people called me crazy. Odin knew rune magic too it was stated in Ragnarok.

Originally posted by Galan007
Where was this stated?

Say what you will about abhi, he reads all Thor comics, and know Thor just as good as Thor fans

abhi and I have been making the same basic argument about RKT's power for years(?) now.

So it's strange that definitive evidence(not fan-wank/headcanon) regarding him being massively beyond Odin has never surfaced. /shrug

Originally posted by abhilegend
Shittting above in Shadows.
👆
Exact opposite was stated.

Rune King Thor defeated a depowered Mangog as well

https://imgur.com/a/M9DuVUT

"I see your magic fails you"

And the handook confirmed the same thing

https://imgur.com/a/tOvyQHh

Thor killed weaker Mangog with a powerful rune spell"