007 No Time To Die
007 No Time To Die
I'm going to be legit honest. I think Bond works better as a woman, and I think that it is PERFECT that they are passing the 007 title to a black woman. Note that is ONLY BECAUSE I think that Ethan Hunt is a better, more heroic, more spectacular, and more iconic superspy, especially because unlike Bond, his unfliching chivalry is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of Bond's sleazy seducing, which works far better for a woman imo, which again is why I'm glad a woman is taking the mantle.
Originally posted by Lestov16
I'm going to be legit honest. I think Bond works better as a woman, and I think that it is PERFECT that they are passing the 007 title to a black woman. Note that is ONLY BECAUSE I think that Ethan Hunt is a better, more heroic, more spectacular, and more iconic superspy, especially because unlike Bond, his unfliching chivalry is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of Bond's sleazy seducing, which works far better for a woman imo, which again is why I'm glad a woman is taking the mantle.
She's not the "new" Bond. She's a completely different 00 Agent, which is why Bond himself is getting called back into action. He's still 007 and Bond, and she is someone completely new who doesn't want to put up with his BS.
Also Craig Bond is nowhere near as bad as say Brosnan or especially Connery.
Originally posted by Lestov16
I'm going to be legit honest. I think Bond works better as a woman, and I think that it is PERFECT that they are passing the 007 title to a black woman. Note that is ONLY BECAUSE I think that Ethan Hunt is a better, more heroic, more spectacular, and more iconic superspy, especially because unlike Bond, his unfliching chivalry is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of Bond's sleazy seducing, which works far better for a woman imo, which again is why I'm glad a woman is taking the mantle.
That’s just idiotic.
Instead of taking a role created for a man, why not just create a new role for a woman instead? That’s right, no one would care enough to watch it.
Bond is male and white, with Scottish in him thanks to Connery, always been, it should always be like that.
That’s just idiotic.Instead of taking a role created for a man, why not just create a new role for a woman instead? That’s right, no one would care enough to watch it.
Bond is male and white, with Scottish in him thanks to Connery, always been, it should always be like that.
I think KD19 is more on the right path.
Originally posted by KingD19
She's not the "new" Bond. She's a completely different 00 Agent, which is why Bond himself is getting called back into action. He's still 007 and Bond, and she is someone completely new who doesn't want to put up with his BS.Also Craig Bond is nowhere near as bad as say Brosnan or especially Connery.
I DID NOT say she was the new Bond. I specifically said that she was taking the 007 title (although, I guess she's not going to be 7, but still the point remains).
Originally posted by Lestov16
I DID NOT say she was the new Bond. I specifically said that she was taking the 007 title (although, I guess she's not going to be 7, but still the point remains).
You made it sound as if you meant she was taking over as the new Bond(since its played by multiple people) and 007 who are synonymous with one another. 007 is Bond.
But her getting a 00 ranking doesn't make her his direct replacement. There are multiple 00's out there. Alex Trevaleyin was 006 for example. So she's another 00 Agent he has to come out of retirement to help get the job done.
Also Kaz when I said bad like Brosnan or Connery I meant with the womanizing and chauvinism. Not bad as in a bad character.
Originally posted by KingD19
You made it sound as if you meant she was taking over as the new Bond(since its played by multiple people) and 007 who are synonymous with one another. 007 is Bond.But her getting a 00 ranking doesn't make her his direct replacement. There are multiple 00's out there. Alex Trevaleyin was 006 for example. So she's another 00 Agent he has to come out of retirement to help get the job done.
Also Kaz when I said bad like Brosnan or Connery I meant with the womanizing and chauvinism. Not bad as in a bad character.
I guess what I'm saying is that the cold-blooded seductive superspy genre would work better with a female lead imo, whereas a male superspy should ideally be more chivalrous, which Ethan Hunt is. That's just the way I look at it.
Originally posted by riv6672
The way I look at it is, if they (whoever they are) want to explore that whole female spy angle, they can create a new character to do that with.Or they can go rent Atomic Blonde.
Well
A) That LITERALLY is the route that they are taking, so, I guess goodbye Bond...
B) They already DID the female spy thing. It was called Alias. Pretty fun show, so fun in fact that they gave the creator his own superspy film franchise, which he's turned into one of the most successful ever, so again, goodbye Bond...
Originally posted by KingD19
But her getting a 00 ranking doesn't make her his direct replacement. There are multiple 00's out there. Alex Trevaleyin was 006 for example. So she's another 00 Agent he has to come out of retirement to help get the job done.
008 also got killed by Christopher Lee at the beginning of The Man With The Golden Gun.
Originally posted by Lestov16
WellA) That LITERALLY is the route that they are taking, so, I guess goodbye Bond...
B) They already DID the female spy thing. It was called Alias. Pretty fun show, so fun in fact that they gave the creator his own superspy film franchise, which he's turned into one of the most successful ever, so again, goodbye Bond...