007: No Time To Die

Started by John Murdoch4 pages

If Danjaq/MGM/UA/Sony/ whoever owns Bond now and produces the films decides to go female Bond, the franchise is dead already. Bond's character has evolved over the years, but playboy superspy with varying degrees of ferocity, brutality, suaveness, and drinking & smoking are as integral to his character as sports cars, gadgets, and deformed villains and their henchman.

That's without mentioning two bigger points:
1. It dishonors how Ian Fleming wrote and described his character of James Bond.
2. It ignores the years of variations on Bond themes and characters that were progressive themselves: XXX being Bond's Soviet Union female counterpart in The Spy Who Loved Me, James trying to settle down until Blofeld and Irma Blunt murder Tracy Bond in On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Wei Lin being Bond's Chinese counterpart in Tomorrow Never Dies, Bond not having sex with Olga Kurylenko's Camille Montes and assisting her in stopping General Medrano in Quantum of Solace, and even M becoming a woman in Goldeneye and onward with Judi Dench filling the role instead of another male actor. Moneypenny is now Naomie Harris and not another "white" actress.

Woke themes infested Star Wars, Star Trek, Fox X-Men, and now Phoebe what's her face is trying it with 007. They should all learn from Star Wars, and especially for Bond, that it doesn't make for good movies.

Anyways, movie looks great.

Originally posted by John Murdoch
If Danjaq/MGM/UA/Sony/ whoever owns Bond now and produces the films decides to go female Bond, the franchise is dead already. Bond's character has evolved over the years, but playboy superspy with varying degrees of ferocity, brutality, suaveness, and drinking & smoking are as integral to his character as sports cars, gadgets, and deformed villains and their henchman.

That's without mentioning two bigger points:
1. It dishonors how Ian Fleming wrote and described his character of James Bond.
2. It ignores the years of variations on Bond themes and characters that were progressive themselves: XXX being Bond's Soviet Union female counterpart in The Spy Who Loved Me, James trying to settle down until Blofeld and Irma Blunt murder Tracy Bond in On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Wei Lin being Bond's Chinese counterpart in Tomorrow Never Dies, Bond [b]not
having sex with Olga Kurylenko's Camille Montes and assisting her in stopping General Medrano in Quantum of Solace, and even M becoming a woman in Goldeneye and onward with Judi Dench filling the role instead of another male actor. Moneypenny is now Naomie Harris and not another "white" actress.

Woke themes infested Star Wars, Star Trek, Fox X-Men, and now Phoebe what's her face is trying it with 007. They should all learn from Star Wars, and especially for Bond, that it doesn't make for good movies. [/B]


I could see it working in two different scenarios though.

One, they make the female Bond a straight up lesbian, and write the scripts as they would for a male Bond, so the new Bond ends up shagging all the Bond Girls.

Two, they keep the new Bond straight, and begins tradition of Bonds guys, still using the punny naming technique.

M: “Your target’s name is Aloisus Percival Ness, Bond.”

Bond: “Ah yes. A.P. Ness. He’s a bit of a hard one, M.”

M: “Hard or not, Bond, you’ll have to get close to A.P. Ness for this to work.”

Bond: “No worries M. I’ll have no problem getting close to A.P. Ness.”

M: “Yes of course, Bond. You’re the best after all. I’ve no doubt you’ll have A.P. Ness in the palm of your hand before too long.”

There’d be some major UST w. the new female Jaws, who’d still have the steel teeth. Oh, the implications!

Other Bond guys could have names like Prince Everhard of the Netherlands, Herman von longschlongenstein, Vlad the Impaler, and of course, in risqué honor of Octopussy, Cocktapus.

As far as I could tell, she's not suppose to really be the new Bond (unless I'm missing something and she went through the same Bond brainwashing wringer he did). She just took the 007 SS tag. I don't see why she'd have to conform to his character traits when they're both in the movie as completely separate characters.

The way Lestov made it sound was that she was going to be the new Bond in future films after this one. That would be terrible. Like some of you have said, Bond was meant to be a male character. If they want to make a female spy movie go ahead and do it without ruining 007.

The new trailer has me hyped, looks like it will be a great farewell to Craig's Bond.

Originally posted by Robtard
The new trailer has me hyped,

Same. It was pretty damn action-y.

Originally posted by Robtard
looks like it will be a great farewell to Craig's Bond.

I wonder who the new Bond will be?

Originally posted by riv6672

I wonder who the new Bond will be?

Rob will be then new Bond.

I'm too old and not British enough, enough though an Irishman and Scot have helm the titular role before.

bond will be trans so kmc, facebook and youtube will explode

Originally posted by Lestov16
I'm going to be legit honest. I think Bond works better as a woman, and I think that it is PERFECT that they are passing the 007 title to a black woman. Note that is ONLY BECAUSE I think that Ethan Hunt is a better, more heroic, more spectacular, and more iconic superspy, especially because unlike Bond, his unfliching chivalry is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of Bond's sleazy seducing, which works far better for a woman imo, which again is why I'm glad a woman is taking the mantle.

lol

Movie posters...:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/uk.movies.yahoo.com/amphtml/no-time-to-die-posters-james-bond-102335470.html

I kinda like this one...:

I only found out recently the release was delayed again, this time to April 2021...

I can't believe it was originally meant to come out this time last year (2019). Time flies.

Hopefully doesn't turn out like New Mutants

God damn it.

Off to watch Bond will review this evening.

🙂

Spoiler:
It was excellent, perhaps the best bond of all time. Male is poor as the villain, and the plot at times as is common with bond veers into the ridiculous. High points, the fog fight, the Cuban death of Spectre, Bonds death. Bonds death is handled very well. The Cuban CIA girl is insanely beautiful. An enjoyable romp

Saw it last night. I'd say it's below Casino Royale and Skyfall, but it was okay.

Ana de Armas makes Salma Hayek look plain

As a massive fan of the franchise and Craig as Bond, can’t wait to see his final performance in the role.

Originally posted by Robtard
As a massive fan of the franchise and Craig as Bond, can’t wait to see his final performance in the role.

Same. I’ll be checking it out over the weekend.