!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil298 pages

17 and 18 (DBZ) vs Shazam/Wonder Woman

Where did Goku go on Shenlong’s back at the very end?
To be honest, in GT episode 63, just before the final episode, a big change comes over Goku. Those who watched carefully might have noticed, but… In that episode, Goku, who takes Yi Xing Long‘s attack, sinks to the bottom of a deep hole. That is the turning point. Afterward, Goku still continues the battle, but what’s different from before is that he’s cloaked in an aura that won’t let any attack near him.
It might be that he died there, or it might be that he became something else entirely. I’ll leave that decision to the imaginations of everyone who watched. However, the Goku up to that point that everyone knows clearly does not appear after that.

In the world of Dragon Ball, Goku had already died multiple times, and up till then, each time he appeared with a halo over his head. However, I didn’t want to go with the usual concept of, “even when he dies, he comes right back to life”. I wanted the viewers to picture “death” in that way, and feel a sadness close to it in reality. So I had a “change” come over Goku.

And then after that, once he defeats Yi Xing Long and grants the final wish, Goku goes right off with Shenlong and the Dragon Balls, to somewhere that people definitely can’t get to. While wishing that people will be able to get by on their own strength in a world without the Dragon Balls. And Vegeta is the only one who notices where he’s headed.

Except, I personally go ahead and imagine… that Goku might unexpectedly show up, just at Chi-Chi’s, from time to time. Yes, unexpectedly….

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The line “Shenlong’s back… it sure is warm…”, which Goku says at the very end, is apparently something that was suggested at a much earlier stage and then thawed out for the final episode.

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-gt-dragon-book-dragon-ball-q-atsushi-maekawa-story-qa/

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That would be EoGT Goku.

Who not only underwent a mysterious change after apparently getting killed by Omega Shenron... but also fused with the Dragon Balls/Shenron and showed up again 100 years later, possibly being immortal and more powerful than ever before.

That's pretty "haxx" by any definition of the term... but then again, in carver's defense (hey, someone has to be the devil's advocate), so is fusing with the damn planet.

End of the page bump, because someone let Albert out of his cage.

So is Goku the new Shen Long or something?

It's very unclear what happened --- there is no good answer.

Again:

I'll leave that decision to the imaginations of everyone who watched. - Atsushi Maekawa

Originally posted by Galan007
Nah.

Who is more hax than him and please don't say Baby or Omega Shenron. The merged 17s were haxxed as well but nothing like Rildo. Im not talking about winning, talking about hax. The only one close to him is Uub.

Carver, go have some sleep.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
17 and 18 (DBZ) vs Shazam/Wonder Woman


Obviously the androids.

Obviously.

17 rapes Diana, while 18 fists Billy anally and painfully drives her thumb into his dickhole.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
17 and 18 (DBZ) vs Shazam/Wonder Woman

Wonder Woman solo's.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Obviously the androids.

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It's debatable whether god level characters beat Superman. Which you'd know if you were a real fan of comics, you ****ing weeaboo.

Originally posted by cdtm
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It's debatable whether god level characters beat Superman. Which you'd know if you were a real fan of comics, you ****ing weeaboo.


I've forgotten more about Superman than you'll ever know.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
17 and 18 (DBZ) vs Shazam/Wonder Woman

Either of the Androids can potentially solo, imho.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's very unclear what happened --- there is no good answer.

Again:

I'll leave that decision to the imaginations of everyone who watched. - Atsushi Maekawa

One of the concepts I actually liked about GT is that it addressed the fact that the Earthlings spammed the hell out of the Dragon Balls, which essentially infected/corrupted them over the years. So having Goku merge with, and purify, the DBs(thereby also removing them from play) was a nice touch, imo.

...Cut to DBS, where the Dragon Balls are selfishly used ad nauseam(Bulma collected them just to de-age herself by 5 years, ffs.) There's just... Something wrong with that, imo.

Originally posted by carver9
Who is more hax than him and please don't say Baby or Omega Shenron. The merged 17s were haxxed as well but nothing like Rildo. Im not talking about winning, talking about hax. The only one close to him is Uub.
Aside from EoGT Goku, I think Baby and S17 were both more 'haxx' than Rildo, tbh.

Not that Rildo wasn't also extremely haxx in his own right.

The last DB I watched was when they beet Jiren and the Broly movie.

Just like comics, the power levels keep getting dumber and dumber and just ruin the whole thing for me🤷

Originally posted by abhilegend
I've forgotten more about Superman than you'll ever know.

Then you should know how much faster Superman is then the androids. Only Jiren or Whis even comes close, and theirs is purely A to B traveling.

Or durable. That time he went into space with his father and shrugged off more energy then Super Perfect Cell can output. Or when his prison shield broke in Death lf the New Gods, and he was exposed to raw Source energy.

Or stronger. He lifted an infinite weight book and Spectre's Eternity. Not to mention rhe Earth itself is more weight then anyone in Z has handled.

Seems like you forgot all about his insane feats, of which there is absolutely no equivalent.

Yeah, you know Superman like Carver knows Hulk. You don't know shit.

Enjoy your anime Weeaboo.

@abhi You like to bring up the chains feat alot against marvel heralds, so who in dbz can output more power than what Superman supposedly did here?

Not talking about Super, but DBZ.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
The last DB I watched was when they beet Jiren and the Broly movie.

Just like comics, the power levels keep getting dumber and dumber and just ruin the whole thing for me🤷

DBS scaling is pretty stupid, yeah.

Though I did like the Broly movie quite a bit.

Originally posted by Galan007
DBS scaling is pretty stupid, yeah.

Though I did like the Broly movie quite a bit.

First good movie of the new generation, imo.

All the rest were juat "OK" (Although I've grown to really appreciate Freeza's writing there, and how his slimey scheming actually works on the heroes)