I have a question for you guys.
Why during the TOP was full power Jiren able to powerup and start hitting MUI Goku even though MUI is supposed to make Goku unhittable, but Moro (who should be a lot stronger then Jiren) can't even lay a finger on MUI Goku now?
I know Goku's more powerful now, but the difference between the MUI he used in the TOP and the MUI he's using now seems like night and day
Originally posted by Mendax
I have a question for you guys.Why during the TOP was full power Jiren able to powerup and start hitting MUI Goku even though MUI is supposed to make Goku unhittable, but Moro (who should be a lot stronger then Jiren) can't even lay a finger on MUI Goku now?
I know Goku's more powerful now, but the difference between the MUI he used in the TOP and the MUI he's using now seems like night and day
Because the difference is night and day.
Goku was already worn out in the ToP, and his inexperience in MUI made him burn energy way faster then normal, as Whis pointed out. Beerus's reaction tells the tale, with him kind of shrugging his shoulders at it in the ToP, and acting highly impressed against Moro.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
The last DB I watched was when they beet Jiren and the Broly movie.Just like comics, the power levels keep getting dumber and dumber and just ruin the whole thing for me🤷
If you want a good fighting anime, Dragon Ball is not it.
Histories Strongest Disciple, Hajime no Ippo, JoJo, these are all good fighting based anime. (Especially JoJo, that's some of the best anime you can watch period.)
Originally posted by cdtm
Because the difference is night and day.Goku was already worn out in the ToP, and his inexperience in MUI made him burn energy way faster then normal, as Whis pointed out. Beerus's reaction tells the tale, with him kind of shrugging his shoulders at it in the ToP, and acting highly impressed against Moro.
The GODS stood up to MUI transformation.
Originally posted by cdtm
Good anime, I just wish Hanma Yujiro would get shut up by someone.He kills Baki's mom, and never really pays for it. If anything Baki and Yujiro become closer then ever.
Someone has to beat him first and so far nobody can. Maybe
Spoiler:
Nomi no Sukune the second can since he's apparently possibly physically more powerful than Yujiro.
Originally posted by Mendaxcdtm mentioned some of this, but there are a few reasons...
I have a question for you guys.Why during the TOP was full power Jiren able to powerup and start hitting MUI Goku even though MUI is supposed to make Goku unhittable, but Moro (who should be a lot stronger then Jiren) can't even lay a finger on MUI Goku now?
I know Goku's more powerful now, but the difference between the MUI he used in the TOP and the MUI he's using now seems like night and day
First off, by the time Goku managed to reach MUI during the ToP, he was completely exhausted(it was mentioned several times during the ToP that his stamina was fully depleted.) That's why he could only sustain MUI for less than a minute in real time before he experienced that wicked backlash and burned out.
Second, Goku is astronomically more powerful now than he was during the ToP. He logically received a significant zenkai after the ToP, and another zenkai after the fight with Broly. In fact, the manga explicitly stated that he came out of those events "stronger than ever":
https://i.imgur.com/vzaBUvI.jpg
...Then he trained with Merus and became retardedly more powerful still.
And on that note, the entire purpose of Goku's training with Merus centered around how to perfect UI as a whole. Whis laid some of the breadcrumbs here and there, but Merus essentially completed his training. That's why current Goku can evidently sustain MUI without any backlash.
Of course, it is probably still possible to "out-strong" MUI(that's always been how DB logic works), but Moro...powerful as he is...simply isn't there. Not yet, at least.
Originally posted by cdtm
Then you should know how much faster Superman is then the androids. Only Jiren or Whis even comes close, and theirs is purely A to B traveling.Or durable. That time he went into space with his father and shrugged off more energy then Super Perfect Cell can output. Or when his prison shield broke in Death lf the New Gods, and he was exposed to raw Source energy.
Or stronger. He lifted an infinite weight book and Spectre's Eternity. Not to mention rhe Earth itself is more weight then anyone in Z has handled.
Seems like you forgot all about his insane feats, of which there is absolutely no equivalent.
Yeah, you know Superman like Carver knows Hulk. You don't know shit.
Enjoy your anime Weeaboo.
Your passive aggressive bitching and moaning is getting pitiful.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
@abhi You like to bring up the chains feat alot against marvel heralds, so who in dbz can output more power than what Superman supposedly did here?Not talking about Super, but DBZ.